Savage 6mmBr question

[shot410]

What can I really expect with a factory Savage Model 12 "F" class 6mmBr? I mean what are you guys really grouping at 100-1000 yards with this gun? I know what I'm getting, and I just want to compare my results. Be honest, pleeeeeese.....

 

[Steve Blair]

I have a 6BR 12F that shoots pretty well. It is not close to my Stiller Viper SS but it cost about 1/3 the Stiller. The attached image is pretty typical at 300 on a tricky range with switching winds. Sierra 107 molys at ~2980. Obviously, the groups would be smaller if there were no wind. The range is in some hills and has no wind flags. The target is a PDF I made of the MR63-CF for 300. It is worth noting that the Savage is holding the 10-ring in tricky conditions.

The second image was shot yesterday with the Stiller on a similar target at the same range. The difference is obvious. The Stiller has fired a number of 100 yard groups under .125". The Savage will get to .3-.4.

 

[MGYSGT]

Mine shoots smaller groups at 2700 fps than faster. Bummer. The first 300 or so rounds would average 1" to 1 1/2" groups at 200 (1/2 to 3/4 MOA), but that was on a very good day. Now it shoots a little better. I have tried lots of different bullets, (berger, hornady, ect). It seems to like those Hornady 105's the best, but only by a hairs margin. I did manage to shoot a .917" group at 300 one day but that was a once in a lifetime thing for me.

 

[bozo699]

Shot410,
My son has a model 12 varmint forgot model # 6br in 1:12 with 65 gr v-max @3550 fps it will fairly steady shoot in the .3s @ 100yds.
Last night just before dark,3+ mph winds raining fairly heavy 36* he shot two five shot groups in a row @ 300 yds with a harris bipod and rear bag 1.125" and 1.128" And I shot my #12 f-class 6.5*284 6shots @ 300 yds @ .970" with 142 SMKs.
Wayne.

 

[jonbearman]

Wayne you have got to let the kid win once in a while.LOL

 

[bozo699]

what are you talking about jon, he finally let ME win
Wayne.

 

[shot410]

Sleepy: That's what I was looking for. I'm 1/2-3/4 moa at 100 & 200 yards. I've only shot steel targets out to 500 yards, and nail every one, including clay birds. So, I guess the gun is doing what can be expected.

 

[okbob51]

I USED to have one with the 8 twist. I only shot it at 100 yards. It starting shooting a little better after the first 200-300 rounds. It was a .3-.4 gun for me. I lost interest because of the trigger.

 

[RonAKA]

I have a LRPV with the 12 twist. I've only shot 3 shot groups with it so far. Most of my shooting is at 100 meters, but I did shoot 300 meters during load development, and managed a couple of 0.7" groups with Berger 68 and Bart's Ultra 68. That is kind of cherry picking though. Here is one of my better sets of 3 consecutive, three shot groups at 100 meters. I switched loads and I recall the next group was similar, but the one after that had a flyer. I seem to get one flyer in about 10-15 shots. Have not figured that one out yet, as to where to point the finger.

 

[bozo699]

Dang Ron that's some fine shooting, is that savage all stock?
Wayne.

 

[RonAKA]

Dang Ron that's some fine shooting, is that savage all stock?
Wayne.

The factory HS Precision stock is pretty solid with an aluminum bedding block, but I did skim bed it. Those were the first three groups out of the gun after bedding. However, it was shooting very well before bedding too. The trigger was a bit of an issue initially but I took it apart, cleaned it, lubed it with spray on graphite, and cut part of a turn off the AccuBlade spring. I don't think in the end that was the issue with the trigger. I think the safety just was not moving to and staying in the full fire position. I now have the trigger set at 7 oz., and have shot close to 200 consecutive rounds out of it without a trigger hitch. I've gone 180 degrees from not too happy with the trigger, to fully pleased. I use a home made mirage shield on the barrel. Other than that, out of the box stock gun. Now I just have to solve the 1 in 10 flyer issue.

 

[kjohnson]

I bought a 12F in 6BR this past Nov. I have shot it at 100,300,and 600 yards. It shoots very good for a factory rifle. The gun has managed several .750" and 1.00" 5 shot groups at 300 yds. I have found that 107 smk jumped .020" shoot the best. Im using 30.2 Varget, Lapua brass, CCI 450 priners. The 107smk is the only bullet I've tested.

 

[stefanosg]

I just got back from the range an hour or so ago. I had some 80g Bergers I loaded up and got a .59in, 7 shot group at 200yds. Shooting to the west with a 10kt WNW wind.

80g Berger Match Varmint, 31.8g of Varget, Wolf small magnum primers, Lapua Brass(Virgin)
Savage model 12FTR 8-twist(tweeked by SavageGunmithing)

 

[Steve Blair]

The 80 grain Berger has shot very well for me in six 6BR and 6mm Remington rifles, twists from 8" to 12". It is the closest to a universal 6mm bullet that I know.