Why no 220 Russian brass from Peterson?

[JMayo]

People need 220 Russian size brass.

https://forum.accurateshooter.com/members/peterson-cartridge-company.1319209/

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[Evan]

https://forum.accurateshooter.com/members/peterson-cartridge-company.1319209/

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I send them an email once a year or so requesting that they make brass on that case head size. I usually phrase it as any PPC/Grendel/ARC brass, since most BR guys could make any option work.

Norma seems fine. I need to get a batch of Starline to try. Peterson would be my preference though since I have had excellent results with their 6.5x47 and 6BR.

 

[JMayo]

What other brass can be turned into 6ppc ?

 

[rwj]

Money, money, money… the tooling cost is significant and then it has to compete for factory resources against other more popular, and likely profitable, cases.

 

[TTE]

I send them an email once a year or so requesting that they make brass on that case head size. I usually phrase it as any PPC/Grendel/ARC brass, since most BR guys could make any option work.

Norma seems fine. I need to get a batch of Starline to try. Peterson would be my preference though since I have had excellent results with their 6.5x47 and 6BR.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/6mm-arc-brass

https://www.starlinebrass.com/grendel-basic

 

[SeabeeKen]

Money, money, money… the tooling cost is significant and then it has to compete for factory resources against other more popular, and likely profitable, cases.

Expand factory, it takes money money money to make money money money. Shooter will move on to other makers

 

[Fast14riot]

Thanks for the reminder. I email them about once a year asking for x57 brass. Nothing really out there for 6rem, 257bob, 7x57, etc. Can fill a big void with that one.

 

[hertz654]

Per their February 2023 newsletter [and a 2023 SHOT Show video], Peterson CC announced they were going to start making 6ARC brass. At one point it was supposed to be released in Q4 2023; last email response I got from back in October 2023 was the "6 ARC is still in development with no providable timeline". Perhaps with Hornady releasing the 22ARC, there will be another cartridge with that same casehead diameter that others will produce brass. From time to time, I also email Alpha Munitions to see if they will start making brass in the PPC-casehead size.

 

[rwj]

Expand factory, it takes money money money to make money money money. Shooter will move on to other makers

True… but apparently Peterson doesn’t deem it worth the investment.

 

[SeabeeKen]

True… but apparently Peterson doesn’t deem it worth the investment.

Agreed. Change the name to creedmoor or prc, or wsm, or saum and there will be plenty

 

[farmerjohn]

Hey Fellers, I think one of the problems is that there is no "standardized" ppc case, I'll bet I've seen at least 10 different versions. Look how many size dies Harrell's offers for the ppc. And, every good smith has his own reamer that he's "tweaked" just a bit,.... John

 

[Bill Norris]

Hey Fellers, I think one of the problems is that there is no "standardized" ppc case, I'll bet I've seen at least 10 different versions. Look how many size dies Harrell's offers for the ppc. And, every good smith has his own reamer that he's "tweaked" just a bit,.... John

Yea, Jack Neary spoke of that being a big part of Lapua not making 6PPC brass on a podcast with Erik Cortina "Believe the Target" so it may very well be the same reason with Peterson or other Manufs.

 

[Evan]

Yea, Jack Neary spoke of that being a big part of Lapua not making 6PPC brass on a podcast with Erik Cortina "Believe the Target" so it may very well be the same reason with Peterson or other Manufs.

That’s why I ask for Grendel/ARC brass, since both are standard and also have an AR following with them too.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

That’s why I ask for Grendel/ARC brass, since both are standard and also have an AR following with them too.

Agreed. The basic case is so close to a group of cartridges that it's hard to imagine lack of sales, when they continue to produce a 220r for essentially a tiny, tiny market, that also requires forming, comparatively and otherwise. I think the opportunity is there.

 

[Bill Norris]

That’s why I ask for Grendel/ARC brass, since both are standard and also have an AR following with them too.

Agreed. The basic case is so close to a group of cartridges that it's hard to imagine lack of sales, when they continue to produce a 220r for essentially a tiny, tiny market, that also requires forming, comparatively and otherwise. I think the opportunity is there.

Yea you would think there would be a market for all of those.

 

[Gabe22BR]

Have y

That’s why I ask for Grendel/ARC brass, since both are standard and also have an AR following with them too.

Have you sized down any to PPC ???

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Have y

Have you sized down any to PPC ???

I have. 6.5g to ppc, a one step op, with the right die. I prefer to neck and size in two easy steps. 6 arc should be easier in both respects.

 

[Evan]

Have y

Have you sized down any to PPC ???

No. I have been using 22 PPC Norma. The Grendel could be some work, but the ARC is so close.

 

[jimmymac]

When I look at some of the obscure cartridges that Peterson offers, it is hard to fathom they couldn’t make money on 220 Russian. At a minimum, they would be making a killing right now since Lapua brass has been unavailable for a long time.

 

[JEFFPPC]

When I look at some of the obscure cartridges that Peterson offers, it is hard to fathom they couldn’t make money on 220 Russian. At a minimum, they would be making a killing right now since Lapua brass has been unavailable for a long time.

So why not just make PPC brass?