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1holeaddict said:We are going to try out the 87vmax and 105 amax out this weekend on some Pa Doe. Dad had open heart about 2 months ago and has to shoot a light recoiling rifle. I have chose 2 of my 243's and going to set a shooting table up in a freshly cut corn field. I have a lead sled DFT to reduce almost all of the recoil. I am very interested to see how they perform at 150-400 yards. The 87vmax will be used for the closer ranges and then the amax will be for longer ranges. Dad is just upset he cant bring the 300 weatherby he carried all his life.