I think this is about as true as Nightforce scopes having issues.Borden or Stolle Panda. Bat, if you like galled lugs and seats. I personally don't. LMAO.
Paul
Which action for 600 yard shooting ?
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There is a reason 17-4PH is called the gall-omatic of stainless steels. My personal opinion, and that's all it is, is just based on the number of Bat actions that I have seen in my shop with galled lugs/seats, compared to all the other custom actions out there. Melonite is just a band aid approach to a heat treat problem. Bats are very nice actions, no doubt. If I were to purchase a Bat action, I would get a chrommoly action hands down. Much tougher and much less prone to galling. Bat says, they use 17-4PH because it machines nicely and they can get a good finish. You can draw your own conclusions from this statement. Still, very nice actions overall. 
Paul
Paul
I always said the West is behind the east by a few years. If you go to IBS 600 yard shoots and see the results on equipment lists, you will BAT is the number one used. Probably Kelby number two followed by Borden. I would say they are the top three. But BAT is usually 50 percent or better on the line. Matt
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
exactly. not sure about these local club shoots but at the national level it doesnt matter which precision discipline- 100, 200, 600, 1000yd the bat makes up more than 50% of every equipment list.
urbanrifleman
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http://www.bergerbullets.com/SW_Nationals/2016-swn-equipment-list-open.pdf
F_class SW NAtionals shows BAT is about 10 percent. Remington right behind.
F_class SW NAtionals shows BAT is about 10 percent. Remington right behind.
mikeeg02
Michael Glantz
Doesnt that list show that of any single action, BAT had the highest? and 2017 looks worse. They look to of had ~50% more BAT numbers then 2016.
http://www.bergerbullets.com/SW_Nationals/2017-swn-equipment-list-open.pdf
Im not arguing for BAT, I tried to call them several times and our schedules didnt work out. But Kelbly took care of me quite well. If its that hard to get information from them when you are trying to give them money, it will only be worse once they have it. It may be the "best", but if I cant talk to them, they wont get my money.
First off its on their website they only take calls at end of day. Hard to run machinery and talk on the phone, when your swamped and months behind.
That is F-class where rate of fire is slower. In BR the BAT would be higher because of smooth bolt lift and speed of shooting. The graph shows about 35 percent not 10. Matt
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urbanrifleman
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How are you getting 30 percent from that list? I get 23 out of 128. That is far from 30% much less 50%.
BAT was the highest percent by two shooters over Remington. At about 17%. Not exactly dominating the equipment list though.
If you add them up BAT is at about 35 out of 100. That's 35 percent. The rest are up to 100. Matt
urbanrifleman
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Huh? It only shows 23 BAT users. Out of over 125.
mikeeg02
Michael Glantz
I understand that, like I said, our schedules didn't work out. With their small window, and countless inquiring customers, both new and existing, that doesn't work for me.
And after talking with and dealing with Kelbly, I don't have any reason to go to anyone else. When I went for my first custom, Kelbly was my second choice based off of equipment list of what was winning, and close match to BAT on the actions I had cycled and tried out from friends of mine. But after a couple of calls with them, and how they have treated me, they absolutely are my first choice.
It actually show 33. The next 3 combined come is at 30 and the rest fill in to make a hundred. Matt
My graph shows 33 for 2017. I don't think that is the actual list but a comparison list like PRS uses. Matt
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
hard to beat the kelblys for being great people all around making great products
JohnMill
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Mudder, You're just showing off your good upbringing
JohnMill
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Hear! Hear!
Alex Wheeler
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Rather than pissing back and forth, lets hear what makes an action better than another and what your checking on them? Because I know for fact a lot less guys check them out than you think. The end user has no way of knowing how good their action is. The action debate seems to have less actual first hand experience than just about any debate we have.
Mulligan
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To be honest, I wouldn't know how to check an action.
Said it before, I say it again. I have a LOT to learn!
CW
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