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Where would you move to?

Beautiful California of course! We have such a fine government concerned about our wildlife that they take great pride in saving the condor, spotted owls, tiger salamanders and some little darter of a fish. We are about to build a 28 million dollar bridge so the mountain lions can cross the road without danger. This is not to mention how concerned they are about our well being with so many criminals in the world. They have passed laws making it illegal for a criminal to own weapons but somehow they forgot to define criminals and included non-criminals as well. I feel really safe at night knowing that it is against the law for a criminal to have a pistol especially since it is against the law for him to murder me. I am thinking of leaving the front door wide open with just a No Trespassing sign above the door as that will keep the bad guys out because it is against the law for him to burglarize my home. Fine weather, the beaches and snow within driving distance, and many ranges until we decide that the lead in the berms is not safe for me anymore. What more can a man want? Tom
 
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The plant is covered with hay fields that never grow above ankle high, is over populated by ground hogs, and there's no government of any kind. :) :)
 
Texas is the winner hands down. Back in '76 I was contemplating moving from NY after lots of thought I moved to Houston. 39 years later it still is one of the better decisions I made as a young man (21 years old).

If you like the Florida's weather you would love the Texas gulf coast. Because there is virtually no tourism here the prices (housing, restaurants, etc...) stay reasonable. Land is cheap compared to either coast. If you want a dry climate the interior of Texas is good, but stay away from Austin, the land prices are approaching a bubble zone. Houston has the largest Medical Center in the world, and that forces doctors out to the suburbs too. That's a good thing to have even if you're in good health.

I live in a suburb south of Houston and I'm 20 minutes away from the only NRA approved 1,000 yard range in Texas, Bayou Rifle. The closest ones are in Louisiana, Arkansas and New Mexico. If you like competing, we have matches at least twice a month. Membership is $140 a year and there is everything from 5 yard pistol range to the 1,000 yards. I shoot year round. If you have conservative tendencies you will make friends easily here. No state has sued the Federal government more than Texas. Like I used to tell my children, Houston is not a great place to visit because other than visit NASA there isn't much else to do, but it is a superb place to raise a family. New York and LA are a 3 hour plane ride away. My son is in his 4th year of medical school in Fort Worth and is scheming on how to get back to Houston. My daughter is back in Houston after finishing college.

If you want a second opinion ask ShootDots, he's a northern NY transplant.

Kindest regards,

Joe
 
Caleb85 said:
I'm just fine here in NW Missouri! Have a beautiful family, great church,beautiful home on 300 acres,and farm another 2900 acres, have a very good local smith and nice 400 yard range out my back door and a 600,700,800 and 1000 yard range on one of my farms! I'm good ;D

Not to mention you have GREAT whitetail hunting!!!!!

You are a blessed man!
 
savagedasher said:
I wouldn't move .
All my family lives no more the 20 miles away. Except the one in the army. I have lived in the same house for 53 years . And I have the same wife for 55 years. All the friend I have left live in 30 miles. The gulf where I fish is 12 miles. The gun range is 28 miles. My house is 48' above sea level So no water problems. My Friend and my gun smith is 22 miles . The private range i shoot 2 or more times a week is another friend . We have at his house has all the toys for shooting . WE have a new acoustic target system on the way. Our gun smith lives 1 mile away from the private range
WE are talking about enclosing the shooting benches and putting air condition in.
I can't think of a better place to live. Larry
The local range we have 12 benches for 1000 YDS 20 benches for 600YDS 30+ for hand gun. Cow Boy action range 5 stand Area 51 were you can shoot anything . We have 3 gun matches. The new 600yd range we have 16 benches . All ranges are under cover. Almost any Saturday we have some kind of competitive matches. Member ship is $150.00 the first time and $100.00 after.
No I don't Care to move. Larry
 
Nomad47 said:
Linko, Flagstaff definitely has 4 seasons due to its altitude of 7000'. Plenty of evergreen trees. I think mostly Ponderosa Pine but don't hold me to that. Lots of public land, too. So no need for your own private range.

Flagstaff definitely has 4 seasons. It also is in the top ten for annual snowfall in the country (including Alaska cities). It just doesn't stick as long as the upper latitudes. Plenty of public lands to spend quality outdoor time. Flagstaff is located in the largest ponderosa pine forest in north america. It's a high desert so bring your sunblock and water. You don't breath in water here you have to drink it. No real bugs here during summer. Some of the best elk hunting there is in the country (maybe world?) found in the surrounding areas.

We have a newer public range that is a similar infrastructure to Ben Avery but not anywhere near as complete. They only have one pistol bay for training and one 100 yd range. They have skeet, trap, and sporting clays too. There was plans for longer ranges but there isn't funding for it yet.

Oh yeah it is close to the grand canyon among slew of other national parks.

Cheers,
Toby
 
tdogg said:
Nomad47 said:
Linko, Flagstaff definitely has 4 seasons due to its altitude of 7000'. Plenty of evergreen trees. I think mostly Ponderosa Pine but don't hold me to that. Lots of public land, too. So no need for your own private range.

Flagstaff definitely has 4 seasons. It also is in the top ten for annual snowfall in the country (including Alaska cities). It just doesn't stick as long as the upper latitudes. Plenty of public lands to spend quality outdoor time. Flagstaff is located in the largest ponderosa pine forest in north america. It's a high desert so bring your sunblock and water. You don't breath in water here you have to drink it. No real bugs here during summer. Some of the best elk hunting there is in the country (maybe world?) found in the surrounding areas.

We have a newer public range that is a similar infrastructure to Ben Avery but not anywhere near as complete. They only have one pistol bay for training and one 100 yd range. They have skeet, trap, and sporting clays too. There was plans for longer ranges but there isn't funding for it yet.

Oh yeah it is close to the grand canyon among slew of other national parks.

Cheers,
Toby

How are prices for houses. I looked a little on line and didn't see much I could afford. For a retirement home I could only spend 150k.
 
JRS said:
In Flag, 150k will get you a 1 bedroom condo.

If your lucky.

Current price per sqft for housing is $165 to $195. It's poverty with a view. Most everything else is inline normal cost of living but housing. The wages don't reflect the inflated cost of housing either. Plus Northern Arizona University is here which inflates the cost to rent too.

I'm fortunate to have lived here long enough to have purchased before the housing boom and have a little housing equity as a result. I don't know how young folks make it work here on a single income?

Cheers,
Toby
 
I have been looking a a few other Arizona areas. Paulden, Strawberry, Pine. What are those like? I have lived in Tucson a little back after I left the army. I was at Ft Huachuca. I know south is real hot in the summer. Like a few more trees and a little cooler, some land and a small house. That and a tight budget make it tough for me to find a good spot to place my stake.
 
Paulden :Hot dry dusty .
Look around in the white mountain area.We do not don't have an AC and its nice ,dont need one 95% of the time, although i did install one in the reloading shed this year.
But there are no ranges close by :( , just forest land to shoot on.
And a few fishing holes. ;D

Good luck in your search.
John H.
 
Can't comment on housing cost for Pine/Strawberry. It's very similar to Flag that it has 4 seasons and there are plenty of trees (still on the Mogollon rim). It's a much smaller community as compared to Flag.

Paulden is a a different place all together. High plains, mostly juniper trees, still has 4 seasons but milder winters than farther north. I can't comment on the cost of housing their but I would imagine it's less expensive than Flag or Pine. Smaller community.

Cheers,
Toby
 

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