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Well, we beat up the Creedmoor cult....what’s next. :)

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I thought I would share this here:

My friend David Tubb told me the story of the 6.5 Creedmore.

He knows the dates and all the players and the year that the Creedmore guys shared a condo at Camp Perry with the Hornady guys. He won the Nationals that year with his brand new 6XC (1988?). Creedmore wanted a 6.5 version, so they knocked it off and called it the 6.5 Creedmore.

Now the 6 Creedmore has eclipsed the 6.5 Creedmore, so we are right back to a nearly exact copy of the 6XC invented by David Tubb, the true wellspring of shooting engineering.
 
got me curious... Would someone please post a 6 or 6.5 creedmore case next to a 6XC case? thanks in advance--marc
 
I thought I would share this here:

My friend David Tubb told me the story of the 6.5 Creedmore.

He knows the dates and all the players and the year that the Creedmore guys shared a condo at Camp Perry with the Hornady guys. He won the Nationals that year with his brand new 6XC (1988?). Creedmore wanted a 6.5 version, so they knocked it off and called it the 6.5 Creedmore.

Now the 6 Creedmore has eclipsed the 6.5 Creedmore, so we are right back to a nearly exact copy of the 6XC invented by David Tubb, the true wellspring of shooting engineering.
interesting...
 
And then came the IHMSA cartridges based on 300 Savage case with a longer neck. From 6 mm through .358. Not exactly sure what year but they were a big deal when I started in ‘83. They were supposed to be a new invention, but not really.
 
I think its gonna be hilarious when all the 6.5 creedmoor fans build rifles on the new 6.5 PRC only to find out that their barrels are burned up in less than 800 rounds.
"Oh so its much faster! I'll shoot steel as much as I can"....(3 months later)..."Why the hell isnt my rifle shooting like it used to? Rounds are flying all over the place. Better start a help thread in snipers hide :("

The PRC is a great design, but if they dont understand how a fast 6.5 round can trash a barrel when used as a target rifle with extended shot strings, they'll be in for a rude awakening. ;)
 
got me curious... Would someone please post a 6 or 6.5 creedmore case next to a 6XC case? thanks in advance--marc

I have a 6mm Creedmoor rifle that used to be a 6XC so I still have both cases. The 6 Creedmoor shoulder is a little farther forward so it does have more capacity. I'll be home on Feb 2nd and can post pics of them side by side if you like. I may even have 6.5 CM cases somewhere that I was going to use to neck down before I bought a pile of Lapua 6mm Creedmoor SRP brass.
 
thanks--i would appreciate it. just goes to show there aint nothing new...I wish I would've chambered 3 6x 47L's in 6XC instead--save a reloading step
 
What about the 6mm-250 and 6mm International? Both of those were way before Mr. Tubb. Way before. They were held back by the barrels and bullets available back then.

The lineage from the 6xc to the 6.5 CM leads back to that condo at Perry. I am sure there were similar cartridges. Of course Tubb pretty much dominated Perry for about 20 years, so I would assume that is why it was copied. Because Tubb shot it and was winning with it, but they wanted a 6.5.
 
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The lineage from the 6xc to the 6.5 CM leads back to that condo at Perry. I am sure there were similar cartridges. Of course Tubb pretty much dominated Perry for about 20 years, so I would assume that is why it was copied. Because Tubb shot it and was winning with it, but they wanted a 6.5.
thanks for the pic!!--not much difference--I call it "academic difference"... and the 6.5X47 L is right in there as well. same wheel
 
There was hype way before Jack O’Connor...

After WW2 it was the Magnum craze and the “Improved” idiocy...

But they were the best thing since sliced bread.

Not sure if your comment was intended to sully Parker O. Ackley's work. I hope not. I've really liked you, so far. :)
 
If I remember the Facebook post right Tubb tested the small primer in the 6xc. He said it didn't improve anything. He offers the small primer brass for sale.

From reading posts here. The small primer craze has created problems lighting slow powders in the cold however.
 
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