Venting: No one wants to shoot NRA precision pistol. :(

[ireload2]

You are only fantasizing something practical. I bet not a one of you have ever shot anyone and you never will.
You are merely playing cowboys and Indians even though you know nothing about horses.

You have your reasons, I have mine. Free country. The peeps I hang with prefer practical skills. Sorry if you are blind to that. Not everyone thinks like you. Thank God for that.

Bullseye is not a fun game for many. So lacking practical applications, no interest for us.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

You are only fantasizing something practical. I bet not a one of you have ever shot anyone and you never will.
You are merely playing cowboys and Indians even though you know nothing about horses.

The hundreds of deer, coons, coyotes, rabbits, groundhogs, etc. that we've killed would have thought differently.

I hope and pray I never have to shoot a human, but if I do, I don't think the outcome will be any different than for the deer and varmints.

 

[JRS]

The hundreds of deer, coons, coyotes, rabbits, groundhogs, etc. that we've killed would have thought differently.

I hope and pray I never have to shoot a human, but if I do, I don't think the outcome will be any different than for the deer and varmints.

I too hope you never have to. Those animals can't return fire, nor shoot first.

 

[Immike]

I too hope you never have to. Those animals can't return fire, nor shoot first.

Plus you have to eat them! Hunters #1 rule. Lol
You guys sure vent a lot! Lol. I've watched guys practice and get good at shooting when it looked hopeless for them for years. It just comes together one day and off they go! Had a old friend that fell apart during his early competition but shot like a demon any other time. Took his spotting scope away from him at a match and he smoked everybody. I had to lie to him about all the bullets in the center but it worked! As far as "real" practical skills, you won't know if you have them until the time comes but you won't find them without the training.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

I too hope you never have to. Those animals can't return fire, nor shoot first.

Forgot to mention the gators and snakes and hogs. Yep, they don't shoot, but they are not without tools to hurt ya'.

 

[mongo chicago]

The idea that bullseye shooting has nothing to do with self defense skills B.S.!!! And yes, I am talking from experience. The department training I got when I went through the academy was minimal and close to a waste of time. I was also at the top of my class on the range. Without going through a lot of detail, I terminated a person who was about to stab another person. I was about 21' away from them. I put two rounds center chest one just below the rib cage and the second round an inch above the first. I attribute my accuracy to the many previous years of BULLSEYE competition/shooting.
Now, this in no way is meant to detract from the run and shoot enthusiasts. I did some of that in later years also and enjoyed it very much. The point is ANY shooting is good practice!

 

[Berger.Fan222]

The idea that bullseye shooting has nothing to do with self defense skills B.S.!!!

I didn't mean to give that impression, and I apologize if I did. Certainly most pistol shooting, including Bullseye, will contribute to self defense skills.

My view is more nuanced. In view of the limited ammo availability and general rising participation expenses of the past few years, students are tending to gravitate toward disciplines they see as more applicable, and most see disciplines that focus on two handed shooting as more applicable to self defense than disciplines that are exclusively one handed shooting. I tend to agree that for a limited practice budget, a well considered plan focused on two handed shooting will serve most folks better.

Was the shooting in which your Bullseye practice contributed to your self defense skills one handed or two handed?

 

[M14AMU]

I gave up NRA HP when the RAT GUN came in vogue and the .308 Winchester cartridge was abandoned for a 'turtle on a log' cartridge!

Damn glad I did!!

Just mighty glad I got the chance to cut the heart out of the best of it at one time!!

It's all about $$$$$$$ today and RUN & GUN!

 

[mongo chicago]

I didn't mean to give that impression, and I apologize if I did. Certainly most pistol shooting, including Bullseye, will contribute to self defense skills.

My view is more nuanced. In view of the limited ammo availability and general rising participation expenses of the past few years, students are tending to gravitate toward disciplines they see as more applicable, and most see disciplines that focus on two handed shooting as more applicable to self defense than disciplines that are exclusively one handed shooting. I tend to agree that for a limited practice budget, a well considered plan focused on two handed shooting will serve most folks better.

Was the shooting in which your Bullseye practice contributed to your self defense skills one handed or two handed?

As much as I practiced one handed bullseye, when the time came to act, I had automatically used two hands. Don't ask me to explain why. I don't know. I just did. Maybe it is more natural in an emergency situation. (Or maybe I'm just a bit weird). I was just trying to point out that all types of shooting are good. Also, I have friends that are high speed combat shooters, and very accurate too! To me, it's ALL good!

 

[XTR]

I gave up NRA HP when the RAT GUN came in vogue and the .308 Winchester cartridge was abandoned for a 'turtle on a log' cartridge!

Damn glad I did!!

Just mighty glad I got the chance to cut the heart out of the best of it at one time!!

It's all about $$$$$$$ today and RUN & GUN!

And the Irish who shot Rigby's thought things had gone completely to hell when the Americans showed up with Sharps, Remington #3s and Hepburns.

You only get left behind if you stop moving.

 

[DirtySteve]

Although I agree with most of your post, whats so defensive or practical about NRA Action Pistol?
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I also think that in the other games, its very easy to be good, or to be a big fish in a small pond. Its easier to get good in some of the spray and pray games. With the number of divisions and classes, the self gratification is easier to obtain.

Its not easy for most people to be really good in High Power, Bullseye, PPC, etc.

In NRA Action Open guns may not be practical but Metallic and Production are practical. I shoot Metallic and have no desire to ever shoot open because it is not practical.

 

[M14AMU]

And the Irish who shot Rigby's thought things had gone completely to hell when the Americans showed up with Sharps, Remington #3s and Hepburns.

You only get left behind if you stop moving.

When the years pile up.....LOTS OF STUFF gets left behind! And....I didn't get left behind! I left 'them' behind because 'they' don't know what they've missed!

 

[JAlfred]

SNIP

One of the old shooters, who used to shoot NRA 2700 pistol, told me that all the younger guys want to shoot real fast a short range where athleticism and speed count more than accuracy.

Before anyone suggests other disciplines, you need to understand that I really did consider the facility's limitations. There are certain restrictions, the most serious of which are fixed target boards set at various and sundry ranges and fixed cement shooting benches. Any other discipline would require digging up and moving the target boards and maybe removing the beloved shooting benches. Also, some ranges can only be used for .22 rimfire.

Change your marketing. Someone needs to repackage the old school shooting disciplines as an eastern meditative art, becoming one with the gun, the target, the bullet, whatever. Teach people to relax and lose themselves in the process and find a connection to a greater consciousness. Tell them it lowers their blood pressure, improves their immune system, relieves stress, cures ED. Part may be in jest, but part is dead serious.

 

[Steve Ladino]

Perhaps the origin of precision pistol shooting began about the time that all we had were single shot flintlock pistols and rifles. Revolvers appeared on the scene in great numbers after the Civil War. The Military's and Police emphasis on precision shooting is what spurned civilian interest in what became "Bullseye" shooting in the States. There were no other options and precision was a way of life at the time not just in shooting but in every aspect of life. All shooters reloaded and many cast their own bullets, today those savings from casting etc. are not substantial any longer as most people have to many other pass times and money to be bothered. As far as fun goes there was at one time in my life nothing more exhilarating than to shoot a 2700. I believe the demise of Bullseye is the fact that all the senior pro's who everyone aspired to be as good as are gone now. The sport is still very much alive though but only in spots and the pistols are far superior to any of the plastic mega magazine blasters that have flooded the market today.
1992 Distinguished Expert.

 

[DRNewcomb]

Change your marketing. Someone needs to repackage the old school shooting disciplines as an eastern meditative art, becoming one with the gun, the target, the bullet, whatever. Teach people to relax and lose themselves in the process and find a connection to a greater consciousness. Tell them it lowers their blood pressure, improves their immune system, relieves stress, cures ED. Part may be in jest, but part is dead serious.

"Bullseye Pistol, the anti-adrenalin sport." I think we should throw in something about "detoxifying" and "essential oils"; they're very trendy these days.

 

[JAlfred]

"Bullseye Pistol, the anti-adrenalin sport." I think we should throw in something about "detoxifying" and "essential oils"; they're very trendy these days.

No, no, no, deep cleansing breaths. In all seriousness, it is one of the most relaxing thing I do. It is meditative.

Zen and the art of precision pistol. I was so inspired by this thread, I went out in the backyard with my IZH 46 air pistol and wasted some pellets.

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[RStewart]

We hold monthly matches for-

HP Across the Course
F-class/Prone
100 yard smallbore
Bullseye Pistol
USPSA pistol
Steel challenge
Field Precision Rifle

 

[JEFFPPC]

As long as You have 2 arms and 2 hands, shooting with one makes no sense. Never understood that game.,Makes as much sense as saying bench shooters must shoot off clay bricks under the fore end with dirty 2B under the butt in a pile, no type of confinement .

 

[spclark]

Wow, a post back from a 4-1/2 year nap.

 

[JEFFPPC]

As long as You have 2 arms and 2 hands, shooting with one makes no sense. Never understood that game.,Makes as much sense as saying bench shooters must shoot off clay bricks under the fore end with dirty 2B under the butt in a pile, no type of confinement .

Wow, a post back from a 4-1/2 year nap.

Evidently it is still relevant to folks today..