Varget or what ?/

[ArtinNC]

What is a real replacement for Varget . I had lot of Varget when this shortage hit . But now I'm starting to run low on it . so what is a real replacement . I'm shooting a 6BR with 95 gr Berger's . As far as I'm concerned there is no replacement .

 

[Blc406]

I've heard of people using VV N140. Supposed to be close to Varget. It's listed right next to Varget on the burn rate chart. I've seen a fair aount of Varget available online. Set up notifications on Powder Valley, Natchess, Midway USA, etc. Even saw that Hodgdon was selling it a short time ago. I saw N140 yesterday. Look around. It's out there but you need to be quick.

 

[Brandon Z]

I just started load development with reloder 15.5 in a bra and it's looking good

 

[rwj]

IMR 4166 and IMR 8208 XBR are both producing excellent results (equal to Varget) shooting heavier 6mm bullets in two different 6BRs.

 

[gtl1946]

Alternatives are there. Your problem may seeing what is available and quickly being able to jump on it. Old pfarts like me who are retired have the time to do that whereas working people don’t. Last Saturday I was looking at who had what and saw that Natchez had 2 powders in 8lbs that I never thought I’d find .They’re there !

 

[Bill Norris]

RL-15 works well but it does burn on the dirty side.

 

[Blc406]

N140 available at Graf and Sons grafs.com

 

[bugman]

With that bullet, 4895 will give you joy. H is unobtainable, but IMR is a out there.

 

[Mark W]

I’m on the 8208 XBR bandwagon, but it’s not exactly easy to find either.

 

[Owens85]

If running 105s N150 works great

 

[urbanrifleman]

If you want an alternative that NO ONE is talking about this is it.

Aa2495

Accurate 2495 Smokeless Gun Powder 8 lb

Accurate Powders is a company that definitely lives up to its name. The complete line of smokeless powders for handguns, rifles, and shotguns is...

www.midwayusa.com

This is General Dynamics powder made in Canada. They make lt32 and all of the other accurate stick powders. I'm pretty sure they make the Enduron powders too.

It's the same speed as 4895.

They make awesome powder.

 

[urbanrifleman]

This one should be the same speed as Varget. Same manufacture.

Accurate 4064 Smokeless Gun Powder 1 lb

Accurate Powders is a company that definitely lives up to its name. The complete line of smokeless powders for handguns, rifles, and shotguns is...

www.midwayusa.com

 

[urbanrifleman]

AA4064 should have the same kernel size as Varget.

 

[WildBill3/75]

8208 xbr and RL 15.5 like others have said are good choices (15.5 appears to be but doesn't have the track record yet and I haven't used it for long).

These days if you aren't stacked deep you get what you can get. Those 2 options are excellent powders. I've seen a lot of 15.5 recently but not varget or 8208.

Stack deep when times are good.

 

[Clancy]

I’ve been using N140, and to be honest, I’m not going back to Varget, ever.

 

[Bill Norris]

N140 available at Graf and Sons grafs.com

Min. order for powder is 4 lbs.

 

[Clancy]

Min. order for powder is 4 lbs.

Powder Valley has it as well

 

[Clancy]

Over the last 6 months, 8208 has been as hard to find as Retumbo or H1000. Varget not so much.

I am well stocked, although I’d take another 8 of H4895 if I could find it.

 

[JEFFPPC]

RL-15 works well but it does burn on the dirty side.

Thats what I have always said. But a friend who set National records with it in a Dasher says that only happens if your load is to light.

 

[Bill Norris]

Thats what I have always said. But a friend who set National records with it in a Dasher says that only happens if your load is to light.

It may be the case for sure because I don't think I've ever loaded anything close to max with it.