Using 6ppc for Varmints

[BobW]

I've got a 6ppc BR Match gun,Panda,Jewell,MCM,one HV 1:14 Krieger, one LV 1:14 Krieger, etc)that shoots 68gr Barts into 1's and 2's. Decided to stay with my 600-1000 yard match's and appropriate guns. So I am going to use this ppc for bench varminting. Instead of rebarreling buying new brass and dies, why not use the 6ppc? Anyone using a 6ppc for varmints? If so what bullets and powder you use? My match load for this is 68 gr. Ultras with 28.8 N133. If I went down to the 58gr varmint bullets what kind of velocity would I get and how do you think they would shoot in a 1:14 twist?

thanks for your help,
Bob

 

[tenring]

I have killed a number of groundhogs with my Sako 6ppc, some at over 500 yards. Factory 14" chamber, 68 gr. Berger, Fed 205M, 29.0 gr. RL10X.
Five shots at 100 yds. usually in 3's and 4's.

 

[vmthtr]

I did this same thing one year. I used the 58 Vmax and VV133, work up a load, the gun will tell you how much powder. It killed dogs very well.

Mike

 

[CatShooter]

"...If I went down to the 58gr varmint bullets what kind of velocity would I get and how do you think they would shoot in a 1:14 twist?
thanks for your help, Bob

I shoot 58gr and 65gr V-Maxs in a 6mmBR w14" barrel - they are very accurate.

Either bullet is capable of shooting in the teens. I use H-322 and B'Mark,VV powders are hard to find here).

You will do well with either bullet, and they will easily kill ground hogs at 600yds.


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[fdshuster]

58 gr. V-Max have been at the top of my "performance" list, in my 6ppc,, 1-14 Shilen, heavy varmint contour) with 28.5 VV133, seated to just touch, Fed 205. Most of the Hornady V-Max bullets will shoot: in many of my side-by-side comparisons, give up nothing to match bullets. 50 gr. is #1 choice in both 222s'. 65 first choice in 2 6BRs'. 87 first choice in a 1-9.25 Savage 6BR. Unfortunate that they do not get the respect they are due.

 

[AckleymanII]

Bob, I got fed up with registered matches. I kept the Panda with a 1-14 Hart barrel on it, .262 neck, throated for the 68g bullet.

I started out with the Sierra 60g HP. H322 was slow, so I started using H335 at the suggestion of a former NBRSA director, Gene Harwood.

I was getting 3550 fps with AMAZING accuracy out of the sierra 60g Hp.

I put 10,000 rounds through that 1-14 Hart barrel, cleaning only after every 300 rounds on dog towns. I waxed the bullets and shot H335 only.

After the last dog hunt with the Hart 1-14 barrel, I shot 5 five shot groups to see how the accuracy had changed. With 10,000 rounds down the tube, the gun still agg'd .285 shooting different loads. I removed the barrel because it was getting to be a pain to de-copper the barrel.

I made my own bullets a the time. I made 6mm Bullets as light as 40g and shot P.dogs with them at 4000 fps at match winning accuracy. I settled on a 55g BT and 60g BT on a .750 jacket, waxed with a compressed load of 335 which were pushed to 3550 out of this well used Hart barrel and 3650 out of another Rem 700 in 6 PPC with a 28" 1-14 Hart barrel on it.

No doubt that you should try the Nosler 55g B.T. and the Hornady 58g V max, along with the 65g V Max.

In my opinion, N133 is way too slow for the lighter 55-60g bullets and it is rough as H. on barrels compared to H335. You can fire 100 rounds of h335, remove the bolt looking down the bore and swear that the gun has not been fired.

Never in all the years of p.dog hunting in S. Dakota did I ever run into an issue of H335 being temp sensitive, but then again I am not stupid enough to leave my ammo out in the sun either.

Good luck, and I am sure that you are in for one heck of a surprise

 

[BobW]

Thanks everyone for the information. Since I originally posted the question, I picked up a box of Sierra 6mm 55gr BK. I did not think they'd work with my 1:14 but what the heck. Loaded it from 28.5 N133 to 29.5 N133.

Was I surprised. At 28.8,my match load with 68 Barts) the bullet shot very close to a competition group. I was not really bearing down on technique since I expected a 1/2 to 3/4 " group.

At 28.8= .250 group, at 29.1=.225. Somehow I got a kernal of powder or dirt in the jewell trigger and could unjam it till I got home so I didn't get a chance to test the 29.5. I have no idea how fast they were going.

To say I was amazed was an understatement. These varmint bullets in well built gun can keep up with the so called match types. I have no problem believing this load in this gun could drill varmints at 500-600 yds.

 

[tuck2]

OK, now you boys did it, Im putting a 6 ppcBR rifle on my wish list...A 600 yard prairie dog rifle sounds good to me..

 

[TominSWNY]

I have shot 55 gr. b-tip with 30 gr. of VV 130 at 3700 fps and .250 groups at 100. I just come back from a PD shoot in CO. Shot the 6PPC with 45 gr. moly hollow points at 4000fps using old AA2200 powder. I had to look fast before the mist disappeared.

 

[EAtts]

I use 55 gr Blitlkings in my 6 BR for chucks.These bullets shoot quarter inch groups consistently and are deadly on chucks in a 1 in 12 PacNor barrel. 32.5 grains of H 322 in a 6BR case seems to shoot as flat as a 22-250.

 

[AckleymanII]

Hey guys, if you can find any PMC 7.62x39 brass or Lapua with the large primer pockets, you will get a boost in velocity using 2.0g less powder.

Accuracy with the large primer pockets vs the small primer pockets is no better than about .035 with the small primers. I found that the CCI200 and Rem 9 1/2's were excellent producing groups in the low 2's and high 1's out of BR rigs used.

H335 in the 6 PPC is unreal fast and clean burning giving exceptional barrel life.

 

[85grBTat3500fps]

I've got a 6ppc BR Match gun,Panda,Jewell,MCM,one HV 1:14 Krieger, one LV 1:14 Krieger, etc)that shoots 68gr Barts into 1's and 2's. Decided to stay with my 600-1000 yard match's and appropriate guns. So I am going to use this ppc for bench varminting. Instead of rebarreling buying new brass and dies, why not use the 6ppc? Anyone using a 6ppc for varmints? If so what bullets and powder you use? My match load for this is 68 gr. Ultras with 28.8 N133. If I went down to the 58gr varmint bullets what kind of velocity would I get and how do you think they would shoot in a 1:14 twist?

thanks for your help,
Bob

BobW,

I know I am a bit late to post here, but I have a factory Ruger M77 MkII VT in 6mmPPC with a 12 twist from the factory. I have had great luck using Berger Moly Coated 69 grain LDFB bullets fueled by 29.6 grains Of H335 for groundhog hunting in PA. This load has grouped 1/2 inch and under at 200 yards for me and has multiple estimated 500 yard kills. I also have used the sierra 60 grain HP with 30.1 grains of H335 with 1/4 inch 100 yard groups. I use the 60 grain bullets when I know I have no chance at longer range shots.

Andrew