US Surgeon General Declares Health Emergency: It's The Guns!

[jxb]

It’s a government title. He does not have to an MD
It is a catchy title though.

Really?
Raised in Miami, Dr. Murthy received his Bachelor of Arts degree from Harvard, his MD from the Yale School of Medicine, and his Masters in Business Administration from the Yale School of Management.

All these checks took me all of maybe 2 minutes... He might be a mouth piece for whatever administration he's currently working for, but he's definitely an M.D.

Then I asked chatgpt "what are the minimal qualifications to be U.S. Surgeon General"
response:
The U.S. Surgeon General is the leading spokesperson on matters of public health in the federal government. The position has specific qualifications and requirements, though there are no strict statutory criteria. Here are the minimal qualifications generally considered necessary:

1. **Medical Degree:**
- The candidate should hold a Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) or Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) degree from an accredited medical school.

2. **Medical Licensure:**
- The candidate must have a valid and unrestricted license to practice medicine in one of the states or territories of the United States.

3. **Public Health Experience:**
- Significant experience and expertise in public health, preventive medicine, or a related field are crucial. This often includes experience in clinical practice, public health administration, or academic public health.

4. **Professional Experience:**
- A history of leadership roles in the medical field, such as leading a public health organization, academic department, or healthcare facility. Experience in health policy, research, and advocacy is also highly valued.

5. **U.S. Citizenship:**
- The candidate must be a citizen of the United States.

### Additional Considerations
- **Commissioned Corps of the U.S. Public Health Service:**
- The Surgeon General is often an officer in the U.S. Public Health Service (USPHS) Commissioned Corps. If not already a member, the candidate typically receives a commission upon appointment.

- **Senate Confirmation:**
- The President of the United States nominates the Surgeon General, and the U.S. Senate must confirm the appointment.

- **Strong Communication Skills:**
- As the nation's top public health communicator, the Surgeon General must have excellent communication skills to effectively disseminate health information to the public and various stakeholders.

While these qualifications are typical, the actual selection can also be influenced by the President’s preferences, including the candidate’s ability to align with the administration’s public health priorities and policies.

 

[snert]

It’s all about the root cause…

If a primer blows, you look at temperature, charge weight, powder type, bullet weight, pocket condition, firing pin protrusion, mfr primer recall, powder recall, etc.

I would venture that part of the increase is it is simply following population increasing.

The other variables are never addressed.

Being penalized by the actions of a few is pretty tiresome to those of us who are playing by the rules. More and more laws aren’t the answer, enforcing the ones on the books might be worthwhile though….

Law is the lowest common denominator.

God forbid we blame morals...or things like self control.

In this world system we can no longer appeal to a Higher standard, or such icky things like repentance. Naw, let's just go with law...

 

[Dkk37058]

Why don’t they go after violent video games.
It appears to me that when they started making this stuff these shooting started to escalate. To me these things gratify violence and some people aren’t wired correctly up stairs and imitate it But they’ll not do anything about it because there’s too much money in it and the politicians don’t want to slap the hand that feeds them.

 

[Rset]

Really?
Raised in Miami, Dr. Murthy received his Bachelor of Arts degree from Harvard, his MD from the Yale School of Medicine, and his Masters in Business Administration from the Yale School of Management.

All these checks took me all of maybe 2 minutes... He might be a mouth piece for whatever administration he's currently working for, but he's definitely an M.D.

Then I asked chatgpt "what are the minimal qualifications to be U.S. Surgeon General"
response:
The U.S. Surgeon General is the leading spokesperson on matters of public health in the federal government. The position has specific qualifications and requirements, though there are no strict statutory criteria. Here are the minimal qualifications generally considered necessary:

1. **Medical Degree:**
- The candidate should hold a Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) or Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) degree from an accredited medical school.

2. **Medical Licensure:**
- The candidate must have a valid and unrestricted license to practice medicine in one of the states or territories of the United States.

3. **Public Health Experience:**
- Significant experience and expertise in public health, preventive medicine, or a related field are crucial. This often includes experience in clinical practice, public health administration, or academic public health.

4. **Professional Experience:**
- A history of leadership roles in the medical field, such as leading a public health organization, academic department, or healthcare facility. Experience in health policy, research, and advocacy is also highly valued.

5. **U.S. Citizenship:**
- The candidate must be a citizen of the United States.

### Additional Considerations
- **Commissioned Corps of the U.S. Public Health Service:**
- The Surgeon General is often an officer in the U.S. Public Health Service (USPHS) Commissioned Corps. If not already a member, the candidate typically receives a commission upon appointment.

- **Senate Confirmation:**
- The President of the United States nominates the Surgeon General, and the U.S. Senate must confirm the appointment.

- **Strong Communication Skills:**
- As the nation's top public health communicator, the Surgeon General must have excellent communication skills to effectively disseminate health information to the public and various stakeholders.

While these qualifications are typical, the actual selection can also be influenced by the President’s preferences, including the candidate’s ability to align with the administration’s public health priorities and policies.

Yep!. From the most liberal part of Florida in his day. Attended Liberal Collages and earned his degrees accordingly. Served under Obama and now Biden. I see no pattern here. Absolutely no political agenda in play. We can count on that for sure.

 

[jxb]

None of this below has anything to do with the fact that it's not the tools fault, but I was curious as to numbers.

I was asking chatgpt questions related to this topic. It should be noted that appears most or all the data is sourced from the CDC, so if you don't believe the CDC for whatever reason then there's little point reading through it. I thought it was interesting to read. It should be noted that firearm related deaths among 1-19 is right up there with auto accidents, further questions and responses said only a few years did it surpass auto related deaths for this age group. My point is, they should be banning autos before guns.


question: among individuals aged 1-19 vs the balance of the population in the USA, what percentage of firearm related events reported to authorities is each group

response:
To determine the percentage of firearm-related events (including deaths and injuries) reported to authorities among individuals aged 1-19 versus the rest of the population in the USA, we can use data from sources like the CDC's WISQARS (Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System) and FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) system. Here's an approximate breakdown based on recent data:

1. **Firearm-Related Deaths:**
- In 2020, there were approximately 45,222 firearm-related deaths in the United States.
- Of these, about 4,357 deaths were among individuals aged 1-19, accounting for roughly 9.6% of all firearm-related deaths.

2. **Firearm-Related Non-Fatal Injuries:**
- Non-fatal injuries are more numerous but less precisely reported. The CDC's WISQARS provides estimates for these injuries.
- In a given year, around 80,000 to 100,000 non-fatal firearm injuries occur in the U.S.
- Data specific to the 1-19 age group indicate that non-fatal injuries in this age group constitute a significant portion of the total, but precise percentages can vary. Estimates suggest that individuals aged 1-19 may account for approximately 10-15% of non-fatal firearm injuries.

**Overall Estimates:**
- For firearm-related deaths, individuals aged 1-19 account for approximately 9.6%.
- For firearm-related non-fatal injuries, individuals aged 1-19 likely account for around 10-15%.

Thus, the balance of the population (individuals aged 20 and above) would account for the remaining 85-90% of firearm-related events. These figures are approximations based on available data and can vary year by year and with specific circumstances. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, detailed reports from the CDC and FBI should be consulted.

question: break down aged 1-19 numbers by age
response:
To break down firearm-related deaths and injuries among individuals aged 1-19 by specific age groups, we can look at data from the CDC. Here's a general overview based on typical categorizations used in public health data:

### Firearm-Related Deaths (Aged 1-19)
#### Age Groups
1. **Ages 1-4:**
- Firearm-related deaths are relatively rare in this age group. Most incidents involve accidental shootings or, less commonly, homicides.
2. **Ages 5-9:**
- Similar to the 1-4 age group, firearm-related deaths are still rare but increase slightly. Incidents are often accidental or related to domestic violence.
3. **Ages 10-14:**
- The number of firearm-related deaths begins to increase. Both accidental shootings and homicides become more common, and there are some cases of suicides.
4. **Ages 15-19:**
- This age group experiences the highest number of firearm-related deaths among those aged 1-19. Homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings are all significant contributors. Suicides by firearm become particularly prominent in this group.

### Firearm-Related Non-Fatal Injuries (Aged 1-19)
#### Age Groups
1. **Ages 1-4:**
- Non-fatal injuries are rare but can occur due to accidental shootings.
2. **Ages 5-9:**
- The frequency of non-fatal injuries is still relatively low but slightly higher than in the 1-4 age group. Accidents are the most common cause.
3. **Ages 10-14:**
- Non-fatal injuries increase, with accidental shootings, assaults, and some self-inflicted injuries being the main causes.
4. **Ages 15-19:**
- This age group has the highest number of non-fatal firearm injuries. Assaults and attempted suicides are significant contributors, along with accidental injuries.

### Example Data Breakdown
To provide a clearer picture, here’s an approximate breakdown using available data from recent years:

#### Firearm-Related Deaths:
- **Ages 1-4:** < 1% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 5-9:** ~2% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 10-14:** ~20% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 15-19:** ~77% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.

#### Firearm-Related Non-Fatal Injuries:
- **Ages 1-4:** ~1-2% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 5-9:** ~3-5% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 10-14:** ~15-20% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 15-19:** ~75-80% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.

These percentages are estimates based on typical data trends and may vary slightly depending on the specific year and source. For the most precise and current numbers, consulting detailed CDC reports and datasets is recommended.

 

[dryhumor]

^^^ Take the population of 300 plus million, and those numbers are pretty small.

 

[Rset]

None of this below has anything to do with the fact that it's not the tools fault, but I was curious as to numbers.

I was asking chatgpt questions related to this topic. It should be noted that appears most or all the data is sourced from the CDC, so if you don't believe the CDC for whatever reason then there's little point reading through it. I thought it was interesting to read. It should be noted that firearm related deaths among 1-19 is right up there with auto accidents, further questions and responses said only a few years did it surpass auto related deaths for this age group. My point is, they should be banning autos before guns.


question: among individuals aged 1-19 vs the balance of the population in the USA, what percentage of firearm related events reported to authorities is each group

response:
To determine the percentage of firearm-related events (including deaths and injuries) reported to authorities among individuals aged 1-19 versus the rest of the population in the USA, we can use data from sources like the CDC's WISQARS (Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System) and FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) system. Here's an approximate breakdown based on recent data:

1. **Firearm-Related Deaths:**
- In 2020, there were approximately 45,222 firearm-related deaths in the United States.
- Of these, about 4,357 deaths were among individuals aged 1-19, accounting for roughly 9.6% of all firearm-related deaths.

2. **Firearm-Related Non-Fatal Injuries:**
- Non-fatal injuries are more numerous but less precisely reported. The CDC's WISQARS provides estimates for these injuries.
- In a given year, around 80,000 to 100,000 non-fatal firearm injuries occur in the U.S.
- Data specific to the 1-19 age group indicate that non-fatal injuries in this age group constitute a significant portion of the total, but precise percentages can vary. Estimates suggest that individuals aged 1-19 may account for approximately 10-15% of non-fatal firearm injuries.

**Overall Estimates:**
- For firearm-related deaths, individuals aged 1-19 account for approximately 9.6%.
- For firearm-related non-fatal injuries, individuals aged 1-19 likely account for around 10-15%.

Thus, the balance of the population (individuals aged 20 and above) would account for the remaining 85-90% of firearm-related events. These figures are approximations based on available data and can vary year by year and with specific circumstances. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, detailed reports from the CDC and FBI should be consulted.

question: break down aged 1-19 numbers by age
response:
To break down firearm-related deaths and injuries among individuals aged 1-19 by specific age groups, we can look at data from the CDC. Here's a general overview based on typical categorizations used in public health data:

### Firearm-Related Deaths (Aged 1-19)
#### Age Groups
1. **Ages 1-4:**
- Firearm-related deaths are relatively rare in this age group. Most incidents involve accidental shootings or, less commonly, homicides.
2. **Ages 5-9:**
- Similar to the 1-4 age group, firearm-related deaths are still rare but increase slightly. Incidents are often accidental or related to domestic violence.
3. **Ages 10-14:**
- The number of firearm-related deaths begins to increase. Both accidental shootings and homicides become more common, and there are some cases of suicides.
4. **Ages 15-19:**
- This age group experiences the highest number of firearm-related deaths among those aged 1-19. Homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings are all significant contributors. Suicides by firearm become particularly prominent in this group.

### Firearm-Related Non-Fatal Injuries (Aged 1-19)
#### Age Groups
1. **Ages 1-4:**
- Non-fatal injuries are rare but can occur due to accidental shootings.
2. **Ages 5-9:**
- The frequency of non-fatal injuries is still relatively low but slightly higher than in the 1-4 age group. Accidents are the most common cause.
3. **Ages 10-14:**
- Non-fatal injuries increase, with accidental shootings, assaults, and some self-inflicted injuries being the main causes.
4. **Ages 15-19:**
- This age group has the highest number of non-fatal firearm injuries. Assaults and attempted suicides are significant contributors, along with accidental injuries.

### Example Data Breakdown
To provide a clearer picture, here’s an approximate breakdown using available data from recent years:

#### Firearm-Related Deaths:
- **Ages 1-4:** < 1% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 5-9:** ~2% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 10-14:** ~20% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 15-19:** ~77% of total firearm deaths in the 1-19 age group.

#### Firearm-Related Non-Fatal Injuries:
- **Ages 1-4:** ~1-2% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 5-9:** ~3-5% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 10-14:** ~15-20% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.
- **Ages 15-19:** ~75-80% of total non-fatal injuries in the 1-19 age group.

These percentages are estimates based on typical data trends and may vary slightly depending on the specific year and source. For the most precise and current numbers, consulting detailed CDC reports and datasets is recommended.

Do we need to eliminate firearm's or do we need to eliminate the practices and perspectives that are creating such turmoil in our youth that is causing such high suicide rates and genera lack of ability to thrive in society?

 

[K22]

I am sure most of us studied equations in math class.

Gun violence DOES NOT EQUAL gun ownership.

Gun violence EQUALS nut cases, criminals, and idiots who allow children unsupervised access to guns.

 

[6MMsteve]

Butt dialing will be the next crisis

 

[dryhumor]

Do we need to eliminate firearm's or do we need to eliminate the practices and perspectives that are creating such turmoil in our youth that is causing such high suicide rates and genera lack of ability to thrive in society?

You mean like character, self esteem, moral fortitude, self discipline, character, and a desire to strive. And maybe a real education that leads to success.

 

[jxb]

I am sure most of us studied equations in math class.

Gun violence DOES NOT EQUAL gun ownership.

Gun violence EQUALS nut cases, criminals, and idiots who allow children unsupervised access to guns.

If I could click agree *1000 I would.

 

[drop_point]

Math.

How many children? And how does the quantity relate to population growth? What demographic? What population center? What education level? Intended victim or unintentional victim? Legal or illegal weapon? Terminal disease? Suicide? Mental decline?

Seems like there’s too many unaddressed variables to reach the conclusion that it was the gun’s fault.

Not only that, they consider the 18-26 year olds “children” for gun violence reporting. If you only go up to age 17, guns don’t make the list. Its car accidents, swimming pools, etc.

 

[Rset]

Why don’t they go after violent video games.
It appears to me that when they started making this stuff these shooting started to escalate. To me these things gratify violence and some people aren’t wired correctly up stairs and imitate it But they’ll not do anything about it because there’s too much money in it and the politicians don’t want to slap the hand that feeds them.

Might not have anything to do with video games. Look at the other factors that also took pace around that same time. Lets consider the lack of parenting. The lack of teaching responsibility. And the lack of any moral direction in life. We might find the answers there as opposed to blaming a game.

 

[jxb]

Not only that, they consider the 18-26 year olds “children” for gun violence reporting. If you only go up to age 17, guns don’t make the list. Its car accidents, swimming pools, etc.

I'm not sure who "they" are, I used 1-19 because that's what Murthy stated (see OP post). Basically tried to stick with the age group stated.

 

[danny]

Math.

How many children? And how does the quantity relate to population growth? What demographic? What population center? What education level? Intended victim or unintentional victim? Legal or illegal weapon? Terminal disease? Suicide? Mental decline?

Seems like there’s too many unaddressed variables to reach the conclusion that it was the gun’s fault.

You see, the thing is that these people just don't like guns. The other things, to them at least, are more acceptable, even if they might be the bigger problem.

Danny

 

[drop_point]

I'm not sure who "they" are, I used 1-19 because that's what Murthy stated (see OP post). Basically tried to stick with the age group stated.

The government for many forms of reporting “gun violence”.

 

[Cecil S.]

What a total crock of B------t. Man are they getting desperate.

 

[ratguner]

The SG claimed he wouldn't use his pulpit to eschew his anti-gun agenda..... might be why 45 passed on him for SG but 46 was eager to hire him.

 

[RED DIRT]

If only ALL good gun owners would have voted in the past few decades, not a damn one of us would be having this conversation here today. We did this to ourselves. Nobody`s fault, but our own. And now all of a sudden, we want to become reactive when we should have been PROACTIVE long before now.

Look at the statistics and the facts.... way more than half the gun owners aren`t even registered to vote.

 

[One Eye Pete]

There are liars, blatant liars and then come statisticians. Now even the truth twisting statisticians have been put to shame by the present administration. Just like their BS line that inflation is under control I don’t believe a word that any of them say no matter what the subject Is.