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UPS Fedex firearms shipping no no

Cigarcop said:
Yep that’s it
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Cigar, Dusty,

That's a UPS document, and there is a huge "and" in it. " As a customer that lawfully ships firearm, or firearms parts, you will need to take the steps below to comply with the new federal and state regulations AND UPS policies. " If ATF document makes the same requirements, then USPS can no longer ship from an individual. No one can. The only change I can find in ATF regs are for unserialized items. If you have access to different wording from ATF, could you post here?

Thanks,

Gerry
 
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shortine said:
The USPS is the only carrier that will still ship a long gun from a legal serialized non FFL to a licensed FFL
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Gerry, could you explain (possibly rewrite) that phrase? I cannot decipher it, but I want to. What's a "legal serialized non FFL"?
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Brians356 said:
Gerry, could you explain (possibly rewrite) that phrase? I cannot decipher it, but I want to. What's a "legal serialized non FFL"?
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You and me...legal owners of firearms with a serial number, but do not have Federal Firearms license. Still must be shipped to an FFL.

The new ATF regs are aimed at unserialized (ghost) firearms parts. UPS and Fedex new rules are aimed at anyone shipping a gun.

Gerry
 
Brian,

This information is still posted on the ATF website as of this morning.

Gerry

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]
 
shortine said:
You and me...legal owners of firearms with a serial number, but do not have Federal Firearms license. Still must be shipped to an FFL.
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Now that makes sense, in retrospect. But you had to untangled the person shipping from the item shipped using more words. Sorry if I should have been acquainted with a vernacular contraction, I've only shipped a gun twice in my life, and in less "interesting times".
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I just tried shipping a stock from the ups hub and they wouldn’t let me ship it. Per their new policy no firearms or related items unless you have a firearms account
 
Cory porter said:
I just tried shipping a stock from the ups hub and they wouldn’t let me ship it. Per their new policy no firearms or related items unless you have a firearms account
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I'm not suggesting you lie to UPS but: It's an inert chunk of wood or composite of some arbitrary shape! It could actually be a field hockey stick. It really could.

Seriously, even ultra-cautious and anti-gun Ebay has brand new Model 70 stocks for sale as I write this. If a stock doesn't have to go to an FFL, what am I missing?

Reminds me of my dear old dad, rest his soul, who was in line for inspection at his small local airport after 9/11. Something in his pocket set off the metal detector. He reached in and pulled out a small empty clip for a Marlin 22 he had been shooting that morning. A harmless inert metal object. But because he stammered "Uh, it's for my bullets" they treated him like a threat and scared the crap out of him, even though they had nothing to hang on him, and knew it. (He refused to ever fly again.) He had not violated any law or DHS rule by trying to board with it, since it could never be deemed any sort of weapon, unlike something like common fingernail clippers (no joke.)
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I don't need to ship a rifle at the moment but I'm sure I will in the future.

I read in UPS's new policy that you need enter into an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of firearm products. It also states that firearm products may be shipped only through a UPS Scheduled Pickup Account using various UPS pickup services.

I sent an email to UPS to try and find out how I get signed up for this account but haven't heard back from them. Been about a week since I sent the email so maybe I need to send another one.
 
I was told by a Fedex employee that if you claim over 500.00 in insurance they have the rite to open the box and inspect the contents
 
White Eagle said:
I was told by a Fedex employee that if you claim over 500.00 in insurance they have the rite to open the box and inspect the contents
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I'm afraid I bring you no joy. This is from Fedex website. I imagine UPS is the same.

Gerry

Inspection of shipments and identification requirement We may, at our sole discretion, open and inspect any shipment without notice. We may, at our sole discretion, require the shipper to provide their government-issued photo identification prior to tendering a package to FedEx.
 
Shipped my Fowler USPS First Class with $2000.00 Insurance, never a question.
Got there in one piece with NO TIRE MARKS either. :D
Anybody that touched the package had to scan it. ;)
 
NorCalMikie said:
Shipped my Fowler USPS First Class with $2000.00 Insurance, never a question.
Got there in one piece with NO TIRE MARKS either. :D
Anybody that touched the package had to scan it. ;)
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Mikie, It doesn't get much better than that.

USPS Registered and insured is undoubtedly the best way for us non FFLs to ship now.....a little slower, and no tracking, but safe. I hope that doesn't change.

I ship my rifle to the Lapua Rimfire testing center in Mesa Arizona every year to test ammo....out there and back...no FFL involved on my end. I used to use UPS but that's out now. Capstone (Lapua) does not allow USPS shipping to thier test centers.: for whatever reason. I've emailed them to ask why not, but I have not received an answer yet.

My local gun store is not sure what to do , so I'm stuck for the time being.

Gerry
 
When the dems recall all paper currency and issue digital currency cards. Allow ESG ideology and administrative governance, shipping a firearm won't be a problem anymore(because you won't be allowed to).
 
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