TS Customs RimX Build - The first 1000 rounds.

[orkan]

This is a very innovate rimfire action and magazine combination, I will agree with that. But if any person goes on record to say this is the APEX in rimfire actions on a site titled "Accurate Shooter", it would substantiate your claims greatly if you could post some record setting or at least impressive groups or targets. I own a few high quality rimfire rifles and I am very curious exactly how accurate this platform can be.

Quite literally, the post before yours, I posted a link to a report and video, in which I fired 6 five shot groups, in sub-optimal conditions... which averaged just under 1/4" at 50yds... which if the guy running it chooses to count, will have me in the #3 spot in current standings. I have posted pics of literally hundreds of rounds on paper, prior to this, with 10 shot groups, with many of those groups measuring in the .0's, .1's, and .2's. I've fired hundreds of rounds Live, for over 200 people to see, as it was happening, with performances showing some of the WORST groups with the worst lots of ammo I have being less than 1/2" at 50yds, with winds so high my recording equipment was being jostled around enough to be distracting to the viewers. If that performance isn't "impressive" enough for you... then I don't know what to do to appease you. Maybe you can tell me what you want to see? Frankly, I don't think you'll see anything that will make you happy, if what I've provided already doesn't give you what you want. Guess you'll need to find out on your own.

Since I received this rifle last friday, I have been as open, and as forthcoming with real data, as anyone could possibly expect. If you need more proof than I've provided, you'll need to seek it somewhere OTHER than me. Frankly, I'm not here to convince you. I made the statement the RimX is the best... and I stand by it. It isn't as if I don't have enough experience to determine whether my feelings on the subject are warranted.

 

[ballisticdaddy]

Quite literally, the post before yours, I posted a link to a report and video, in which I fired 6 five shot groups, in sub-optimal conditions... which averaged just under 1/4" at 50yds... which if the guy running it chooses to count, will have me in the #3 spot in current standings. I have posted pics of literally hundreds of rounds on paper, prior to this, with 10 shot groups, with many of those groups measuring in the .0's, .1's, and .2's. I've fired hundreds of rounds Live, for over 200 people to see, as it was happening, with performances showing some of the WORST groups with the worst lots of ammo I have being less than 1/2" at 50yds, with winds so high my recording equipment was being jostled around enough to be distracting to the viewers. If that performance isn't "impressive" enough for you... then I don't know what to do to appease you. Maybe you can tell me what you want to see? Frankly, I don't think you'll see anything that will make you happy, if what I've provided already doesn't give you what you want. Guess you'll need to find out on your own.

Since I received this rifle last friday, I have been as open, and as forthcoming with real data, as anyone could possibly expect. If you need more proof than I've provided, you'll need to seek it somewhere OTHER than me. Frankly, I'm not here to convince you. I made the statement the RimX is the best... and I stand by it. It isn't as if I don't have enough experience to determine whether my feelings on the subject are warranted.

I am ready to build myself a rimfire rifle and was just trying to confirm your statement of this action being the APEX in rimfire before I finalized my build sheet. Was really not trying to be argumentative but seems as though you are missing my point. The old saying that a picture is worth a thousand words.......now this is impressive....would you not agree?

 

[USMCDOC]

Must have me mixed up with someone else. It would take me nearly 14hrs to get there. I live in western South Dakota.

yeah.. think so.. but hey.. we had fun .. right!

 

[orkan]

yeah.. think so.. but hey.. we had fun .. right!

Indeed! ... and we can even keep being friends!

 

[orkan]

I am ready to build myself a rimfire rifle and was just trying to confirm your statement of this action being the APEX in rimfire before I finalized my build sheet. Was really not trying to be argumentative but seems as though you are missing my point. The old saying that a picture is worth a thousand words.......now this is impressive....would you not agree?

My apologies, I did miss your point.

I'm not proclaiming the RimX the apex of benchrest actions. I should have clarified. Apex of repeaters... that's what I'm saying.

 

[USMCDOC]

Indeed! ... and we can even keep being friends!

 

[shoot4fun]

@orkan I found a Rim-X in stock priced at $1150 for action only. Same offered a Shilen Rachet 22LR blank at $360. Knowing the cost of a Vudoo V-22 barreled action, normally $1770 with one mag, just what is the apex of 22LR repeaters going to set the average shooter for a barreled action? I really don't see a gunsmith doing chamber, thread and muzzle thread with thread protector (as a V-22 comes) without the Rim-X being in the $2K zone.
I know cost isn't the whole thing but the cost of a Vudoo has kept quite a few from taking the plunge (not me as I own two of them). I can see either platform, Rim-X or V-22, doing the same thing that I would expect from them. Shooters will ultimately decide which is best in the long run don't you think? Also, as the Rim-X isn't a "one-stop" shopping experience from Zermatt, the actual builder will have an even larger part in putting Rim-X at the top. Your evaluation is, after all, as much an evaluation of TS Customs as it is the Rim-X action.
Finally, please don't get all bent out of shape over what I've said here. It is not a condemnation of Zermatt, TS Customs and, especially, your glowing review. Nor is it an attempt to say the V-22 is better than the Rim-X. I have no way of comparison at this point. Just merely my observations.

 

[orkan]

@orkan I found a Rim-X in stock priced at $1150 for action only. Same offered a Shilen Rachet 22LR blank at $360. Knowing the cost of a Vudoo V-22 barreled action, normally $1770 with one mag, just what is the apex of 22LR repeaters going to set the average shooter for a barreled action? I really don't see a gunsmith doing chamber, thread and muzzle thread with thread protector (as a V-22 comes) without the Rim-X being in the $2K zone.
I know cost isn't the whole thing but the cost of a Vudoo has kept quite a few from taking the plunge (not me as I own two of them). I can see either platform, Rim-X or V-22, doing the same thing that I would expect from them. Shooters will ultimately decide which is best in the long run don't you think? Also, as the Rim-X isn't a "one-stop" shopping experience from Zermatt, the actual builder will have an even larger part in putting Rim-X at the top. Your evaluation is, after all, as much an evaluation of TS Customs as it is the Rim-X action.
Finally, please don't get all bent out of shape over what I've said here. It is not a condemnation of Zermatt, TS Customs and, especially, your glowing review. Nor is it an attempt to say the V-22 is better than the Rim-X. I have no way of comparison at this point. Just merely my observations.

I would expect our TS Customs RimX barreled actions to be north of $2000 on average. We'll know more in the coming weeks. There might be some a bit less, many quite a bit more. Anyone familiar with Primal Rights and the products we carry, knows fully well that we don't cater to the lowest common denominator and that price has always come secondary to whether a product is without equal or not. Lets face it, I'm fully aware that the majority of people aren't in the market for a $4700 rifle scope, nor a $600 priming tool, and certainly won't be interested in $5000 full custom rimfires. Despite that, that is where all of our focus is. Providing the very best, to the most discerning.

You are correct in that the builder has a lot of part in being able to deliver a quality build on a RimX. In that capacity, TS Customs is the most impressive rifle builder I've ever worked with. We have hundreds of satisfied customers that can make the same claim. I don't expect these rimfire products will be any different.

I'm not in the business of selling things to people that don't want them, nor am I in the business of telling people what they want to hear for the sake of money. I tell it how it is, and as a result, our customers are quite pleased with what is delivered. I'm afraid that's the best I can offer.

 

[Schutzen2]

Not only is Travis an impressive rifle builder, he is an extremely fine young man. He built a rifle for me a few years ago that I'm very happy with to this day. Part of the reason for that is he wanted to know what I really wanted, not what he had to sell. He was a real pleasure to do business with.

 

[Pav67]

Travis has built me a couple rifles and chambered a few barrels.I have the CPS primer from Greg.Both have helped me and answered all my questions.Ask either an honest question and I guarantee you will receive an honest answer.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

I am ready to build myself a rimfire rifle and was just trying to confirm your statement of this action being the APEX in rimfire before I finalized my build sheet. Was really not trying to be argumentative but seems as though you are missing my point. The old saying that a picture is worth a thousand words.......now this is impressive....would you not agree?

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Was this a .22lr that shot this?

Lee

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Posted a 6x5 on snipershide today. ... with video.

https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/6x5-thread-v4-0-new-1-1-20.6253073/post-8469443

Very nice shooting and I would say you have a great shooting rifle too! can I ask what ammo and what temperature were you shooting in.

Lee

 

[orkan]

Very nice shooting and I would say you have a great shooting rifle too! can I ask what ammo and what temperature were you shooting in.

Lee

Thank you much! I'm really liking this rifle. I was shooting RWS R50 and it was 32f out. I'll be uploading another one here shortly. It was 24f and is marginally better than yesterday's.

 

[linebaugh]

@orkan I found a Rim-X in stock priced at $1150 for action only. Same offered a Shilen Rachet 22LR blank at $360. Knowing the cost of a Vudoo V-22 barreled action, normally $1770 with one mag, just what is the apex of 22LR repeaters going to set the average shooter for a barreled action? I really don't see a gunsmith doing chamber, thread and muzzle thread with thread protector (as a V-22 comes) without the Rim-X being in the $2K zone.
I know cost isn't the whole thing but the cost of a Vudoo has kept quite a few from taking the plunge (not me as I own two of them). I can see either platform, Rim-X or V-22, doing the same thing that I would expect from them. Shooters will ultimately decide which is best in the long run don't you think? Also, as the Rim-X isn't a "one-stop" shopping experience from Zermatt, the actual builder will have an even larger part in putting Rim-X at the top. Your evaluation is, after all, as much an evaluation of TS Customs as it is the Rim-X action.
Finally, please don't get all bent out of shape over what I've said here. It is not a condemnation of Zermatt, TS Customs and, especially, your glowing review. Nor is it an attempt to say the V-22 is better than the Rim-X. I have no way of comparison at this point. Just merely my observations.

Price is $1150 for an action plus mag and proof presently has pre fits at $450 threaded both ends and chambered. $1600 bbl action for a DIY on that route. More prefits will likely follow as I assume 22LR will be one of the fastest growing segment of the shooting industry for a while and no extractor cuts makes prefits a readily available option. Zermatt built a better mouse trap as far as a modular plug and play DIY platform. Is it better than the Vudoo or the Duece or the 2500... as a package and for accuracy I would think them all to be pretty equal depending on bbl and shooter skill.

Also Shilen Rachet from KSS are $299

 

[orkan]

Even better in the cold today. 6x5 - 0.233" avg.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_CzAe-JIgA/

 

[ballisticdaddy]

Even better in the cold today. 6x5 - 0.233" avg.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_CzAe-JIgA/

Nicely done! Could you please dial two clicks up and two clicks left?

 

[orkan]

Nicely done! Could you please dial two clicks up and two clicks left?

lol... annoying isn't it?

So, the purpose of the 6x5 is to shoot tiny groups, not score. So, I need my aim point to stay whole. Also, the wind hasn't stopped enough for me to get a "real" zero on this rifle since I've received it. For those reasons, I'm fine with things as they are for now. When I get a day to really zero, I'll get it dialed in, and then put clicks on to shoot for group when necessary.

Also, it's not as bad as it seems. We have prevailing left to right winds here. So that tends to drag the bullet down a bit and off to the right. ... which for the purposes stated, I'm fine with right now.

 

[ballisticdaddy]

lol... annoying isn't it?

So, the purpose of the 6x5 is to shoot tiny groups, not score. So, I need my aim point to stay whole. Also, the wind hasn't stopped enough for me to get a "real" zero on this rifle since I've received it. For those reasons, I'm fine with things as they are for now. When I get a day to really zero, I'll get it dialed in, and then put clicks on to shoot for group when necessary.

Also, it's not as bad as it seems. We have prevailing left to right winds here. So that tends to drag the bullet down a bit and off to the right. ... which for the purposes stated, I'm fine with right now.

I live in Colorado so pretty familiar with cool temps and that pesky wind!

 

[DaWhit]

Impressive, thanks for the videos and “real world results “.

 

[justinp61]

lol... annoying isn't it?

So, the purpose of the 6x5 is to shoot tiny groups, not score. So, I need my aim point to stay whole. Also, the wind hasn't stopped enough for me to get a "real" zero on this rifle since I've received it. For those reasons, I'm fine with things as they are for now. When I get a day to really zero, I'll get it dialed in, and then put clicks on to shoot for group when necessary.

Also, it's not as bad as it seems. We have prevailing left to right winds here. So that tends to drag the bullet down a bit and off to the right. ... which for the purposes stated, I'm fine with right now.

Here in Kentucky we have days of relatively calm winds. If you like you could send me the rifle and I could shoot it for a couple years and then return it when it's thoroughly broke in. BTW, please send it's favorite ammo too.