Trigger question for you pistol shooters.

[9146gt]

S&W PPC 9's,5906 have hinged triggers to resemble revolver trigger action. Before they were outlawed they were very competitive in PPC and used by many.
Tom

 

[divingin]

I shoot mostly bullseye pistol, and have a couple of Pardini's, a Morini air pistol, and a lightly stroked Gold Cup. One that is rarely run into anymore is a S&W Model 52 in 38 Spl. All those have great triggers.

I recently bought a CZ P-01 (compact version of of P-75 variants) and put the Cajun Gunworks kit in it. I have to admit I'm impressed with the end result. The fairly long reach was reduced, the long double action sweep is now shorter, and I think lighter, and the single action break is crisp and clean at maybe 2 lbs (though I'd guess a tad over a pound and a half.) The only drawback is that I can't use my collection of old rifle primers in the 9mm ammo - lighter hammer strike makes those unreliable (probably tunable with a mainspring swap at the expense of a bit more trigger pull weight, but it doesn't bother me much.)

Shop around, or ask other shooters if you can see their firearms at the range. Good pistols are out there.

 

[M-61]

Nope. Revolvers are revolvers. Semi-auto's are considered pistols.
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Nope. Revolvers are revolvers. Semi-auto's are considered pistols.

So much for flintlock pistols, wheel lock pistols etc. Not quite cut and dry.

 

[426nut]

Dan Wesson revolvers.

 

[coorslight]

Check out the Canik line, nice trigger, short reset, reasonable price point, have owned 4 different models never had an issue.

 

[AccelR8]

I bought a P320 when they first came out. Friends who shot it told me the trigger was so much better than a Glock. OK, I guess if they say so. Certainly not comparable to a 1911 or a S&W revolver. It’s a plastic striker fired pistol after all.

Then the voluntary recall. I sent mine in. The technician called me and asked if I wanted a flat-faced trigger like the X models. I said yes I’d like to try it, put it in but also please send the curved update trigger as well in case I don’t like the flat.

I didn’t really prefer the flat so I put the curved one in.

About a year ago I had a nerve issue and lost virtually all of the strength in my right hand, mainly the thumb, index, and to a lesser degree the middle finger (along with severe pain between the shoulder blade and spine). I was unable to shoot anything double action at all. Just couldn’t pull the trigger through, and many single action (such as the P320) took all the effort I could muster and even then I basically had to squeeze the entire hand as hard as I could and that pulled the sights off target.

For the P320 I ordered a Grayguns spring kit and put the flat trigger back in, reasoning I could get my finger down farther on the trigger and get more leverage. This resulted in a gun I could again shoot with the same accuracy (not pulling off target) and a trigger that breaks at 3.5 lbs. It still isn’t a 1911, it has some take-up, a small amount of creep and some over travel. But it’s good enough for me. There are ways to improve it even more, reducing pre-travel and over travel. There are adjustable triggers available aftermarket.

Anyway, might be an option to look in to for a modern option with a not horrible trigger.

I have a Beretta 92X. I think the trigger is not bad for a stock trigger, especially single action. The X has a lighter hammer spring than the 92fs, M9, and others. I also have a Taurus 92 which I have shot a whole lot since 1989. I bought a Beretta “D” 13 lb. hammer spring like the 92X uses and put it in the Taurus. I gotta say, it has a very very nice single action trigger and it has the option of cocked-and-locked carry like a 1911. So maybe that’s another option for the OP. Also look into the newer Beretta models, I think they have a couple single action only 92s.

Happy to report I’ve regained much of the hand strength back. Maybe 80-85%.

 

[skeeljc]

My CZ Shadow II has an excellent trigger. I have a SA kit for it but have not installed it yet.

 

[F/V Icy Swan]

Bullseye shooter here. 1911 for centerfire and 45. S&W 41 not bad for 22, but IZH trigger is better once you figure out the pseudo 2 stage thing. Wife shot Benelli 32 and I never warmed to the trigger.

I have shot, but not owned, S&W Model 52. Nice trigger. I think I could like it.

Mime

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

CZ TSO is twice as good as 210 target. Have both. Both are great guns..but the CZ is a notch above.

I will start looking at them. Thks.

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

CZ TSO is twice as good as 210 target. Have both. Both are great guns..but the CZ is a notch above.

What other CZ 75 models are good?

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

agreed on the 1911. Notice that a few of the very top level precision shooters prefer their 1911 be a little different. I understand they press as the sights move toward the center and hold as the sights move away.
When I shot precision I liked the proverbial breaks like a glass rod with safe pressure on the centerfire/.45 and on my .22 rimfire on a 1911 frame the trigger is also very light. Many many shots fired. Performance Center triggers on the S&W were very good indeed for a long time, then they declined, I have no idea what they are currently. The original Python however fragile was a good trigger.

I carried a gunsmithed 1911 in 9x23 for many years and had a Wilson for backup and games and high round count training. I have been forced by age and eyesight to move to a red dot, and chose to go with a polymer for weight and capacity in 9x19. I went with the S&W M&P2 fueled by Ed Brown with the Acme trigger group installed and tuned by Ed Brown and was pleasantly surprised by feel. Not as good as well tuned 1911 but as good as run of armory pistols.

If you otherwise like the Beretta I'm sure Langdon or Wilson could give you an acceptable trigger though perhaps not to your liking as much as the very best of 1911. Suarez for the CZ and so it goes.

approx when do you guess/think Performance Center triggers declined? thanks in advance.

 

[mike mccormick]

I'm a bit of a trigger snob myself. Grew up on 1911s and revolvers. Most of which had trigger work done. A couple of years ago I bought a sig 320 rxp. I actually like it. Trigger isn't bad, and it's silly accurate. I have shot several modded glocks, you couldn't give me one

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

One thing to keep in mind is new vs old style pistols. the old school, 1911s, brownings are a different era. The 1911 is a true 'single action' pistol that automatically ejects, while moving the slide, feeding another round into the chamber. Maybe this is a important or not. It is akin to firing a high quality revolver SA. However, there are modern semi autos that fire in SA mode. Could be the production costs, mfg methods and change in design. A 1911 has way more parts than a glock, or even a Sig P220. Like M Mc. said, some of these newer pistols don't have the finess of the older 1911s but they can still shoot like a house on fire.

 

[6BRA]

What other CZ 75 models are good?

I'm not sure, I can only say my TSO 75 is the closest thing I have seen to a benchrest trigger in a pistol. You breathe wrong and it falls. That light and crisp.

 

[JBT47]

H&K VP9’s have good triggers for a striker fired high capacity pistol. The VP9’s I’ve owned have all been almost as accurate in my hands as Colt, Kimber, and Springfield 1911’s. The grip is adjustable and feels really nice and fairly trim compared to other striker fired offerings. You also get H&K renowned robustness and reliability assuredness. The VP9 picks up where Glock left off and I believe it is a superior pistol in most all aspects. Many also say the Walther PDP has an even better trigger than the VP9 with some saying the PDP has the best trigger of all striker fired brands. This will be my next striker fired pistol to compare with my experiences with 3 different VP9’s I’ve owned. The Walther is less expensive but still uber quality German engineering and overbuilt compared to other companies’ models. In the hand, the HK VP9 and Walther PDP feel very similar. Walther being the cheaper route to a reliable German built pistol. I find that German, Austrian, or Finland built guns to be of exceptional quality. Even if just an old striker fired pistol.

 

[J.d. Popkes]

What other CZ 75 models are good?

Shadow 2

Ts2 orange

Sp01 tactical

Are what I have. Call Cajun Gunworks.

 

[outasite`08]

I have Glocks S&W and Colts. I prefer in order as a carry gun. Summer S&W 642 or Glock 43. Cooler colder Glock 19 or Colt Series 70 .45acp. Thats just me. Whatever you can shoot well and find a comfortable holster for carry in my opinion is all that counts. Practice as you think you will carry. But try to satisfy your need for a good trigger. My choice would be the Colt. Jeff

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

I have Glocks S&W and Colts. I prefer in order as a carry gun. Summer S&W 642 or Glock 43. Cooler colder Glock 19 or Colt Series 70 .45acp. Thats just me. Whatever you can shoot well and find a comfortable holster for carry in my opinion is all that counts. Practice as you think you will carry. But try to satisfy your need for a good trigger. My choice would be the Colt. Jeff

series 70 is a hunk of steel, which I really like.

 

[Oso]

Out of the box a 1911 has the best trigger, Browning HiPower, and arguably the higher-end CZ"s (Shadow, Shadow 2, Accushadow, Tactical, etc). Just about every trigger can be further improved/refined by a competent gunsmith. Seldom is a factory trigger ever anything better than "ok".

in 2005 CZ bought and brought back to life Dan Wesson. The was CZ's entry into 1911's and they are quite nice and just a step under a custom (Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc), but definitely a couple of step up from mass produced 1911's.

As far as revolvers goes CZ reintroduced the Dan Wesson 357 revolver around 10 years ago, but has discontinued making them in 2021. Honestly, the Cat's Meow is a Dan Wesson 44Mag Revolver manufactured in the 1970's to early 1980's. If you come across a blued model where the bluing on the receiver has started turning to a purple-plum to grape in color then buy it. They feel great in the 6" barrel with the heavy barrel shroud and also 8" for hunting or silhouette.