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Tolerances?

Hi All,
I'm really new to this precision shooting, so don't make to much fun of me.

I just went thru and measured and weighed brass and bullets. I'm shooting.223. My brass is 1.7600+.0020/-.0000 and weighs 6.10-5.90 grams.

My bullets are Hornady FMJBT 54.7 grains and are .7365 +.0005/-.0005 in length.

My question is are my tolerances to tight or should/can I open them up?

Thanks
 
I shoot a 223 but just for personal pleasure, not competition. Nevertheless I strive for the tightest groups and can offer the following.

I have weigh sorted brass and never noticed a difference on the target, but I have trouble shooting consistently below 1/4 moa anyway. Maybe it will matter to your particular skill level. I prefer to buy my brass, as opposed to picking up range brass and keep it segregated from other brands, lots, purchases. I prep it carefully, but no longer weight, or H20 check it.

Measuring bullet OAL is a fools errand as they vary wildly . Measuring base to ogive is standard, but IMOP not much better, although some will argue that. I will measure mid boat tail to ogive using two Hornaday OAL inserts. But again, in a 223, the difference in case intrusion is not going to show any measurable pressure changes until you're shooting competitively at 1000 yds where vertical dispersion will be deadly to your game.

FMJBT are not known for accuracy. An open tip match or plastic tip match, especially the 53 gr. V-Max or 55 V-Max will shoot much better, IMOP. I shoot the 69 gr. Lapua with good success. If your barrel is an 8 twist, you can shoot the 80 SMK which is another good bullet.

For excellent consistency, neck tension is key. The better you are at sizing the neck precisely every time and with not too much tension, will quickly become apparent on your targets.

Tell us more about what you're shooting, barrel, twist, throat, brand. Also your loading equipment and measuring tools.

Almost forgot: Welcome to the forum!
 
Texxas10 thanks for your response, good info

I'm shooting A remington 700 with a 26" barrel with 1:12 twist
I don't know what you mean by "throat"' sorry I'm new to this

I reload with a Dillon 550B and use a Lyman digital scale.

I started by reloading hand loads and have moved to rifle reloading

Thanks
 
As Texas said the FMJ bullets are your weak link.... Some better bullets will prove themselves real fast.... I prefer matchkings myself , when I first started I tryed the FMJs myself after switching to the matchkings I only load FMJ for plinkers or shtf ammo....
 
@joervoyles, welcome to the precision game. Many shooters on this forum will skip weight sorting components and focus on brass prep and load development.

Are you measuring your results with a chrono or by group size?

DC
 
Hi All,
I'm really new to this precision shooting, so don't make to much fun of me.

I just went thru and measured and weighed brass and bullets. I'm shooting.223. My brass is 1.7600+.0020/-.0000 and weighs 6.10-5.90 grams.

My bullets are Hornady FMJBT 54.7 grains and are .7365 +.0005/-.0005 in length.

My question is are my tolerances to tight or should/can I open them up?

Thanks
I like my brass as close to 0 as I can get it.
 
With a 12 twist you might try Sierra p/n 1400 and 1410, or the Hornaday 53 V-Max and a fairly fast powder. All shoot extremely well. Are you able to measure your bullet seating depth when touching lands in the barrel? This is critical in setting up your seating depth for load development. The Hornaday OAL gage using a modified technique will give exact results even for a new hand loader.
 
Ditch the FMJ bullets as they are your biggest hindrance at the moment. Don't waste your time with these, as they will not group. Choose a good 52 or 53 grain match bullet and you will be amazed at the difference. Good luck and have fun. :D:D

Paul
 
Your brass needs trimming. Its over SAAMI maximum.
Sorting brass by weight seems to make a difference when using better bullets then fmj.

Sort brass by 3/10 grains. Or .019 grams.

SAAMI max length, IMHO, is to make sure it fits into a magazine and chambers from a magazine. I have a .223 single shot bolt rifle and it handles the longer necks just fine. Shorter ones, as well.
 

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