Yes, George, many years ago, during a 'shortage', I had all of my jackets committed to orders, and none left for yours truly. I knew that Guy Chism had received about 100K of BAD J4 (1.080" .30 Cal.), and had kept 3-4 cartons of them, "just in case" . . . I all but begged him to sell a case to me.Randy if I recall correctly you had some way worse and had the same results....
Guy didn't want me disappointed, or peeved, however, reluctantly, he agreed to let me purchase some: the result was the first and probably only full season, where I never dropped a point during any 100 yd. stage of NBRSA registered Hunter Class events . . . on the 0.150" DATUM line, those jackets ran 0.0007-.0008" of wall-thickness variation!

That season, I won every NBRSA registered [North Central Region] Hunter Class tournament, except the NBRSA Hunter Nationals, which were conducted by Don Deckert/Prairie Dog target Club . . . there, I finished a disappointing 3rd - those LOUSY bullets!


I never sold a single bullet made with those jackets (as I recall, 3 buckets)- they sure didn't hurt me too badly. That said, many years later, I "rejected" a 100K batch which indicated > 0.0004" variation: that was/is because I intended to sell them, and they were, technically, out of spec. - my customers deserve the best, while, in a pinch, I can "make-do", and still sleep at night.

P.S.: AND THAT was when we were still using 1:15" twist barrels!

10.0 Lb. weight limit; for-end width limit, 2&1/4"; 6x scope limit - VfS, which came along later, shoots the same target(s).
Last edited: