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Threading Attempt #2

Bully

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D5CB7377-4BFC-48D1-8EB3-F6955986957E.jpeg Sue to my machine sitting for a long time before I got it, I can really only thread limited pitches. I went with 24tpi. This is my second attempt. The first attempt will be buried without seeing the light of day...
It’s on scrap aluminum. I’m just trying to get the hang of it so it’s not threaded to any spec. I gust wanted to see what it was like cutting threads.

Sorry the pic sucks. Flame away...
 
Bully,like I tell guys trying to learn paint spraying......start spraying everything that ain't bolted down.Shop trashcan,fixtures,etc.The more different the shape the better.So it is with threading."don't make a .05$ screw" is a mantra in shop world,the notion being time vs money,BUT....when starting out,thread everything that you can lay your greasy hands on.

Welding,spraying,and threading.....3 area's that if at all possible,having knowledgeable help looking over your shoulder usually puts guys in the fast lane.
 
As long as you always try to improve have as much fun as you can. Get yourself a thread pitch micrometer shars is fine. Then try to hit a pitch diameter within .001.
Then measure for taper! I was amazed how much a barrel sized piece can deflect!!!
That picture looks like its very sharp ie no crest flat.
Buy a cheap thread protector and thread for a good fit as a fun practicing exercise.
Its a fun hobby. Enjoy it.
 
Thanks folks. I appreciate the nice comments. More than you know. It's nice to get some encouragement.
Now to get this darn machine all sorted out...
 
Bully,chuck up a bolt and learn to "pick up" the threads.

Also...I like having the crossfeed handle at just a bit past 12:00....that way when the thread lever gets disengaged,you quickly back out the cross feed 1/2 turn.Run carridge back to start position,bring handle back "up" to 12 (where you zero'd)....advance compound repeat.
 
Thanks again for the suggestions.

My lathe "thread selector knob" is currently frozen in one position severely limiting my threading choices at the moment. I have the trans soaking in PB Blaster right now hoping that a week long soak will allow it to free itself up. If this doesn't work, I'll have to see what's up. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Next, switch to threading steel, just common (1018) is OK to start with. The stuff you can buy at the hardware or Fastenal. Get some 1" in diameter. Move to 16T.P.I. or fewer. The carriage will move at a faster rate toward the shoulder with fewer T.P.I. , and you need to get used to that. With a piece of 1" bar you can again go to Fastenal or the hardware and buy a 7/8" fine threaded nut. Make your cut threads fit the nut (7/8" will have you threading to a shoulder, 3/4" fine would be OK, too). Thread gages are kinda' worthless for gunsmith work as any threads you will deal with should be 'custom fit',, not too tight and not too loose. The only threads I 'work' as standard are guard screws. I might take a hand tap and chase those if I need to. But barrel tenons and threaded muzzles for brakes are a custom fit, fit to the receiver or brake that will be used. Also, when you have your thread fitting the way you want it, it hurts nothing to take a clean mill bastard file and 'break the crest' on your cut threads. Again, not too much, just a little. Practice, practice, practice,,,,,,,,,, until you are satisfied and confident. Then you can move on to "picking-up" an existing thread. I set my cross slide handle at the 9 o'clock position. That way it is a straight push down at the end of the thread to back the tool out, it's a natural movement. Anywhere between 9 and 11 o'clock, wherever you are comfortable.
 
Thanks again for the suggestions.

My lathe "thread selector knob" is currently frozen in one position severely limiting my threading choices at the moment. I have the trans soaking in PB Blaster right now hoping that a week long soak will allow it to free itself up. If this doesn't work, I'll have to see what's up. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Show us a pic of the "thread selector knob".
 
Bully , what lathe do you have ? Harrison M300’s are famous for the plastic selector cams swelling from coolant and freezing up.
 
It’s the round knob, bottom left. It's very unhappy. It's now moved from the 6 to the 5 but won't go back. At least it's some kind of progress. D1AE1BEE-F054-4ED3-A401-0C6ADC7F7C6F.jpeg
 
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50/50 acetone and transmission fluid makes a fantastic penetrating oil. You can sub brake cleaner for acetone. PB blaster only has 1 use and thats only if you like the way it smells!
 
It’s the round knob, bottom left. It's very unhappy. It's now moved from the 6 to the 5 but won't go back. At least it's some kind of progress. View attachment 1043269
dont know how old your machine is or how much the gear box has been changed but when my import was new it was very difficult to shift the gearing. the import gears are just not meshed very well and need to be used /runin awhile before changing is easy. have you tried turning the spindle back and forth while you are turning the knob. of coarse something may be damaged to but theres a good chance you can get it to work.
 
Yep , that’s a common problem with the Harrisons. There’s a set of selector cams made of some kind of plastic that swells from coolant. There’s a video on YouTube where a guy took his apart and assembled the cams back onto the shaft and put it between centers and carefully sanded them down a little until they turned in the housing. I’m going to have to do it to mine. Be sure to seal the gap that the coolant gets into the gearbox from after you fix it. The parts are available from Harrison but like all of the 600 group parts they’re ridiculously expensive.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...41AEDA9EFD192810AD1E41AEDA9EFD192&FORM=VRRTAP
This is the video with him explaining the problem and his fix. The issue is addressed at about the 9:30 point in the video.
 
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Yep , that’s a common problem with the Harrisons. There’s a set of selector cams made of some kind of plastic that swells from coolant. There’s a video on YouTube where a guy took his apart and assembled the cams back onto the shaft and put it between centers and carefully sanded them down a little until they turned in the housing. I’m going to have to do it to mine. Be sure to seal the gap that the coolant gets into the gearbox from after you fix it. The parts are available from Harrison but like all of the 600 group parts they’re ridiculously expensive.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...41AEDA9EFD192810AD1E41AEDA9EFD192&FORM=VRRTAP
This is the video with him explaining the problem and his fix. The issue is addressed at about the 9:30 point in the video.

My question now becomes how the heck do I get the gear box off...
 
50/50 acetone and transmission fluid makes a fantastic penetrating oil. You can sub brake cleaner for acetone. PB blaster only has 1 use and thats only if you like the way it smells!
My only concern is that the parts in question are made of a plastic material. I'm somewhat afraid of using acetone as it could make the situation worse. If you have experience on my machine with this product mix, please chime in. I don't claim to know much. It's just my concern.
 
My only concern is that the parts in question are made of a plastic material. I'm somewhat afraid of using acetone as it could make the situation worse. If you have experience on my machine with this product mix, please chime in. I don't claim to know much. It's just my concern.
I do not have any experience with your machine.
I AGREE DO NOT USE ON PLASTIC.
Im not sure pb blaster is any good on plastic either, it will melt a foam cup!
 
I do not have any experience with your machine.
I AGREE DO NOT USE ON PLASTIC.
Im not sure pb blaster is any good on plastic either, it will melt a foam cup!
I just got off the phone with Clausing USA. He seemed to think I am taking the correct course of action. Gonna save removing the gear box as a last resort.
 

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