I never understood why they put a forward assist on an AR. I have never had it work for me, even with factory rounds and I have 4 AR's all are AR15.
This Happened To Me (Kaboom Almost)
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Was he a range officer or an instructor?
I always doubt their credentials except a big mouth and a whistle. Are they needed? Yes. But they fall into the class of people who refer to themselves as armorers. Self appointed credentials. An armorer?
Not even close. It’s why I am so fortunate to shoot in my backyard. Good thing I’ve always been a sr bench shooter.
Absolutely! However the guy that gave it to me (to shut me up about loosing brass
)was shooting lots of it that day without trouble so my gun was at fault as well.I find that when TWO things are f'ed up at the same time...well you get the picture.
For the record I've never bought a single round of Tula or similar.
Absolutely! However the guy that gave it to me (to shut me up about loosing brass
I thought I read all of your posts, so forgive me if I missed it, how was your gun at fault?
A chamber with very little throat. I never did a chamber cast or anything but while it was sold as a 5.56 chamber I think it's safe to say it was not. As i said the ammo-givers gun ran the junk just fine but mine wouldn't even chamber and fire a single round of it. So I blamed the gun as well as the ammo. Just a bad combination of the two. I still have that barrel around here somewhere.
Way back when I first got into AR15's there was 3 ways to get one. 1. Be issued one which of course you can't take home, 2. IF you could find one in a gun store, good luck with that...and they were 20" Colt rifles, forget finding something like a CAR15, you would have to pay the gun shop price (1800 to 2000 in today's money) and this was out of the question for a young man with a family, or 3. Gun shows and ads in Shotgun News for surplus parts and put your own together. Lots of junk cast lower receivers were around, I was able to avoid them. I splurged for a new barrel
I was working for a police dept. at the time and the chief and the patrolmen thought if you were interested in ARs you were some sort of psycho.
The jammed gun/stuck round incident happened maybe 15 or 20 years after I put that carbine together. I had been out of shooting for a long time and was just getting back in to it.
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Dont forget , most 5.56 was 55 gr fmjbt , not the 62 green tip . If your rifle was a slow twist barrel it was a chamber designed for the 55 fmjbt nato .A chamber with very little throat. I never did a chamber cast or anything but while it was sold as a 5.56 chamber I think it's safe to say it was not. As i said the ammo-givers gun ran the junk just fine but mine wouldn't even chamber and fire a single round of it. So I blamed the gun as well as the ammo. Just a bad combination of the two. I still have that barrel around here somewhere.
Way back when I first got into AR15's there was 3 ways to get one. 1. Be issued one which of course you can't take home, 2. IF you could find one in a gun store, good luck with that...and they were 20" Colt rifles, forget finding something like a CAR15, you would have to pay the gun shop price (1800 to 2000 in today's money) and this was out of the question for a young man with a family, or 3. Gun shows and ads in Shotgun News for surplus parts and put your own together. Lots of junk cast lower receivers were around, I was able to avoid them. I splurged for a new barrel
I was working for a police dept. at the time and the chief and the patrolmen thought if you were interested in ARs you were some sort of psycho.
The jammed gun/stuck round incident happened maybe 15 or 20 years after I put that carbine together. I had been out of shooting for a long time and was just getting back in to it.
Tula ammo is well just loud noise makers .
1:9 commercial barrel
Should have been correct for most 5.56 nato ammo . Tula does go bang but obviously doesnt conform to nato specs .
Glad you used your experience to avoid a serious situation.
Gun show deals or even specials deals on line , all need to be examined.
Now , I really need to examine some ‘ special ‘barrel deals I purchased a lot more closely.
Thank you
Dang . Did any fragments depart the receivers ?
dellet
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No problem with the lower.
Upper I saved the forward assist and the dust cover.
Blew the magazine out.
Luckily it was load development, so on the bench with a squeeze bag and had both hands well to the rear of the blast. Trigger finger was the most forward body part.
Pretty impressive actually how well it held together.
Yes, I still flinch every now and then with a new load or rifle. Only been a few thousand rounds and a couple years
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Old Navy
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What powder?No problem with the lower.
Upper I saved the forward assist and the dust cover.
Blew the magazine out.
Luckily it was load development, so on the bench with a squeeze bag and had both hands well to the rear of the blast. Trigger finger was the most forward body part.
Pretty impressive actually how well it held together.
Yes, I still flinch every now and then with a new load or rifle. Only been a few thousand rounds and a couple years
dellet
Gold $$ Contributor
15.8 grains #9 under a 190 grain bullet. Should have been 7.9 grains.
I could tell there was an issue because the bullet went super
jonbearman
I live in new york state,how unfortunate !
Was the tula you had zinc coated or the polymer coated stuff.
Poly coated not zinc. But the problem was most certainly a bullet stuck in the throat, not a residue build up.
Intell
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I’m probably in the minority but I like an upper with a forward assist. I have some without and they run fine except I can’t chamber a round quietly.
I always use the assist for coyote guns so I don’t have to hit the bolt release and hear the action slam closed.
I pull the charging handle back until the bolt release drops then slowly let the round out of the mag into the chamber, then thumb the bolt home with the assist.
I think the main problem with them is some people who don’t know any better think they are designed for battering ammo into the chamber.
In my opinion they have a use, if used correctly.
I always use the assist for coyote guns so I don’t have to hit the bolt release and hear the action slam closed.
I pull the charging handle back until the bolt release drops then slowly let the round out of the mag into the chamber, then thumb the bolt home with the assist.
I think the main problem with them is some people who don’t know any better think they are designed for battering ammo into the chamber.
In my opinion they have a use, if used correctly.
I have used the FA exactly as you describe.
Like I tell people, it's nice to have but you don't HAVE to use it! Better to have and not need than need and not have.
Kinda like a 15 or 18 round magazine in a self defense 9mm. I've heard people say, that's way too many rounds. Each one is a liability. If you cant solve the problem with 5 rounds blah blah...I say just 'cause you have a higher cap mag doesn't mean you have to empty it. If you need it you'll be happy to have it!
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