There Goes Our No Tax on Suppressors

[Tangent]

All gun laws are political. It's why they differ so much and make no sense

 

[Loudenboomer]

Too many unelected bureaucrats with too much power. John Thune needs to grow a pair. Straighten the Parliamentarian out or get rid of her!

 

[Kracken McGraw]

You can't hate republicans enough.

That’s the damn truth! Worthless just like the other side.

 

[dryhumor]

Kinda makes you wonder if this wasn’t in the play book all along, huh? What happened to the National Concealed Carry provision, another apple they dangled in front of us?

Kinda like Lucy telling Charlie Brown she’ll hold the football for him this time. Ever the optimist, Charlie Brown believes her, until she snatches the ball away, and poor Charlie ends up on his azz yet again.

 

[DGP4]

The elimination of the tax has been added back to the bill.

 

[LVLAaron]

Imagine being arrested for not paying a zero dollar tax.

 

[alf]

The elimination of the tax has been added back to the bill.

Senate Adds Language Eliminating the NFA’s $200 Tax on Silencers and SBRs and SBSs to the One Big Beautiful Bill

Last night, the Senate chose what’s behind door number one. They’ve added language to the One Big Beautiful Bill that would eliminate the NFA’s $200 tax on suppressors, SBRs, SBSs and machineguns.

www.shootingnewsweekly.com

 

[LVLAaron]

But still under NFA. Which without a tax makes it a defacto registry.

 

[DGP4]

But still under NFA. Which without a tax makes it a defacto registry.

Only way to avoid the requirement of 60 votes to pass the bill was to keep it about the tax only. You can try and blame the Republicans, but that is how the Senate rules work. That rule has kept the Democrats from passing a lot of bad laws in the past. I don't like it either, but there it is.

 

[DRK]

But still under NFA. Which without a tax makes it a defacto registry.

The NFRTR is hardly accurate as it is. I have been inspected multiple times and have not had the NFA branch's print out match my books even once.

Up until 1983 the the NFRTR was kept on a Roledex. Any records before 68 are 50/50 whether ATF has them.

Uncle Sam knowing where all the NFA firearms are is laughable.

 

[jnyfeler]

I know washington d. c. is a strange place but how can a person thats not a congressman or senator take anything out of a bill? Doug

Some jackass senator put her up to it, so he could remain blameless.
Jeff

 

[7br]

Only way to avoid the requirement of 60 votes to pass the bill was to keep it about the tax only. You can try and blame the Republicans, but that is how the Senate rules work. That rule has kept the Democrats from passing a lot of bad laws in the past. I don't like it either, but there it is.

I am by far not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to the fine points of political shenanigans so I was ignorant of the above statement, but the lobbyists of the GOA and other pro-gun organizations should certainly be fully aware. But I do know that with the slim margin in the Senate 60 votes is a definite impossibility. Aside from the democrats, we’re amazed when on the rare occasions ALL of the republicans vote in our favor. It would be nice to know when I’m making my donations to fight for these issues that I’m being fully informed by the organization that is happily collecting my funds. If I’d been informed that it would merely remove the tax issue I would have still donated. But I feel kinda hoodwinked with all of the grandiose claims of removing these items from the NFA and gutting the ATF. I will continue to support our pro-gun organizations cause they’re all we’ve got.

 

[LVLAaron]

Some jackass senator put her up to it, so he could remain blameless.
Jeff

John Thune

 

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John Thune

And you know that is fact how?

 

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[CJ6]

Well it's back in the bill now.

 

[Tangent]

NFRTR is hardly accurate as it is. I have been inspected multiple times and have not had the NFA branch's print out match my books even once.

Up until 1983 the the NFRTR was kept on a Roledex. Any records before 68 are 50/50 whether ATF has them.

Uncle Sam knowing where all the NFA firearms are is laughable.

I see the way bureaucracies deal with records every day and you are correct. They are seen as low level admin, and as such no-one really cares until they want something. By then it's probably been moved around, not indexed correctly, accidentally destroyed, withdrawn and never returned etc. etc. I wouldn't be surprised if some things get accidentally destroyed on purpose
Big brother may be watching you but he's not that conscientious about it.

 

[brokeasajoke]

So we still would have to jump through the hoops but just not have to pay for their permission?

 

[timeout]

So we still would have to jump through the hoops but just not have to pay for their permission?

Yes, that's what we have right now. Better than nothing. My hope would be that we can make the next step in the future. Kind of the way the way the gun control crowd does it, an inch at a time. If that's what it takes, so be it.

 

[LVLAaron]

Yes, that's what we have right now. Better than nothing. My hope would be that we can make the next step in the future. Kind of the way the way the gun control crowd does it, an inch at a time. If that's what it takes, so be it.

Unfortunately I'm afraid reducing the tax to zero makes it super easy for gun grabbers in the future to make the tax 25k.