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The 'local' gun show

Went to a gun show in Jacksonville,FL today. No parking fee and $8 entry fee. Saw powder prices range from $26 to $36 per pound Hodgdon, IMR, Alliant, and primers $30 to $35 per thousand CCI & Winchester. No where near the number of people attending as when Obama was in office. Not as many vendors as in the past and suprisingly a poor selection of cleaning solvents. Did notice low prices on AR 15's and accessories.

perry42
 
I'm curious about us older collectors . Do you think value will go up or is it going to be a buyers market ? Please NO political views just honest thoughts , is anyone else thinking increasing there insurance or decreasing . Gunshows are usually high but the ones selling are a good indicator of current values . IM SO CONFUSED .

Hey Gary: I think the collectibles are steadily rising. Your best bet is to watch the gun magazine articles. When they do a major article on an "old gun" the price goes up. I watched it happen with Savage 99s. They were going for $4-550. Then Guns and Ammo (or maybe another mag) did an article on how great they were and they started going fo $8-1500. It took a couple years, but now I see them go for $500 again. I've been watching the Swedish Mausers slowly rise over the past years. A good thing to do would be to put a few at a time on Gunbroker and see how they sell. Put your minimum on them so your safe. Josh
 
"For you younger guys --- to bad you never saw a OGCA in the 60 - 70 - 80's era in Columbus, Ohio."

Very True!
 
It might just be a "coincidence", but the local Wal-Mart and the Farm Supply store both had the
largest inventory of rimfire ammo that I've seen in years! This included .22WMR as well as 17HMR.

I haven't seen so much in inventory locally since before Obama!
Perhaps the hoarding has ended.
I was at a local gun shop today and notice the same thing. They had even taken the sign down limiting 2 boxes/person.
 
I only go to shows to see what private sellers are trying to sell. Old farmers with their decades old rifles and shotguns. They are not so proud of them to be asking new prices like alot of the guys at the tables. I also frequently score old reloading components, namely bullets. Love to find the old Nosler Solid Base bullets.
 
The problem I've had the last ten years at gun shows is that since the FFL dealers were allowed to set up, there is NO SUCH THING as a bargain anymore. They all set up on Friday afternoon, and then cruise the aisles for three or four hours that evening making sure the paying customers never even see anything at a bargain price.

This is a much better place to shop. It's all quality stuff, although I do miss the tables full of "dream catchers" and collections of pre-1950 glass telephone pole insulators...
 
I quit going to so called "Gun" shows.. I refuse to pay to go in a place to spend my money.. And the prices are exorbinant to say the least.. More knives and junk than guns.. Ammo through the roof.. Nope.. I'll spend my money at the local shop with people I know
 
On the Gun Show note yes back 20 plus years ago in Illinois you could find a deal. The M1 and Springfield parts New in the Wrapper made me Nuts.
On the Change in the White House. I see lots of Ammo and Powder on the Web. Sites. The thing I look for is Varget Powder. I have not found many 8 pounds at a good price.
I now see a lot of 8 pounds but the price jumped $20 plus dollars. That is hard to under stand ? The down under Dollar is down .
I ordered some shooting stuff direct from Australia and paid less in US dollars.
 
Too low for me at this point but it's good to know if something happens to me . My wife will have one less thing to worry about


Ggmac,
Thanks for thinking ahead. I'm going through a good friends lifetime accumulation right now. He was very heavy into professional grade woodworking, reloading, and shooting. And he was ready if hildabeast would have gotten in. His plans on retiring this year were brought to a halt with the discovery of a large aggressive brain tumor.

Trying to help where I can, because if the situation were reversed he would be there for my bride.

Al
 
This is a much better place to shop. It's all quality stuff, although I do miss the tables full of "dream catchers" and collections of pre-1950 glass telephone pole insulators...

The "As seen on TV" tables have some pretty cool stuff and the guy selling genuine G I gas masks that are made in China always has some interesting merchandise. :p
 
I'm curious about us older collectors . Do you think value will go up or is it going to be a buyers market ? Please NO political views just honest thoughts , is anyone else thinking increasing there insurance or decreasing . Gunshows are usually high but the ones selling are a good indicator of current values . IM SO CONFUSED .

I'm not sure but I don't think old collectors are worth much $ nowdays . . . . .
 
IMHO the Biggest downfall of Gun Show "Goodies" is the fact that there are just TOO MANY of them . 20 years ago there were "Seasonal" Shows Early Spring and Fall. On any given weekend now you can drive just a few hours in any direction and find a show.
If they do not get there $$$ at one show they will wait for the next one

Jim
 
I'm curious about us older collectors . Do you think value will go up or is it going to be a buyers market ? Please NO political views just honest thoughts , is anyone else thinking increasing there insurance or decreasing . Gunshows are usually high but the ones selling are a good indicator of current values . IM SO CONFUSED .

After spending the better part of the week taking care of business at SHOT Show, I decided to take a couple of days to see the Antique Arms Show, Intl. at the Westgate Hotel in LV. Just to be clear, this is also referred to as a 'collectors' show so I shouldn't have been as surprised as I was. What a jolting experience when compared to SHOT Show! Yes, SHOT Show is a Trade Show, so I'm not trying to draw any comparisons between the two but there was a world of difference.

The Antique Arms Show was a true gun show with long lines of tables running for what seemed to be mile after mile in the big hall. My goal in attending was to relax and experience some of the visual and historically significant firearms from the past. Talking to some of the exhibitors was a magnificent lesson in the historical significance of some of the firearms displayed. This alone was well worth the small price of admission. The attendees, by all appearances, were, as a whole, significantly older than what I would have suspected. In fact, there were very few folks in their 40's and 50's present even as buyers let alone sellers. So I have to agree that the collectors and the buyers of 'collectible firearms' are getting older without much of an infusion from the younger folks. I was not alone in this observation either. Many of the sellers and buyers shared meals together in order to discuss the state of the industry for collectibles.

The jolting part though was the prices! Evidently, the concept of selling 'collectible' firearms has come to be represented by huge increases in prices over selling in other venues. Models such as the average Savage M99 takedowns in .300 Savage were running $2,000 to $3400.00 depending on the sellers of course, corporate or individual. On the other end though, Interarms M98 Mausers had asking prices of $900.00 for the action and standard trigger, and I saw one Commercial FN action with an asking price of $1,000.00 albeit in very nice shape. I expect prices for a Purdey or Holland & Holland to be excessive but not for the mundane examples. As you might expect, many of the sellers left without making a dime because of this. Some attempted to make some minor corrections around 10:00 AM on Sunday but as you might expect, it was too little, too late. In essence and in general, throughout a cross-section of the show, prices appeared to be 3 times higher than what I have seen them in other circumstances. Even the older Lyman, Redfield and Unertl target scopes were off the wall expensive.

Granted, there was little there which would have created much interest with our modern day accuracy members but the historical significance was immeasurable. The best part though was that there was nothing except firearms and weapons, no jerky or any other irrelevant products.

Regards.
 
I've been to the Colorado Gun Collector's annual show at the Merchandise Mart in Denver a few times - first time was in '96. No junk, and the only really modern guns I saw were pre-'64 M70s. IIRC, there was a terrific display of Winchester Single Shots there - the owner had recently passed, and his family allowed a few of his trusted friends to display his entire collection one last time before they disposed of it. I'd never seen so many Schuetzen Single Shots in one place at one time - seeing that collection before it was sold off was worth the trip out by itself.
 

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