Thanks to All of You

[Riesel]

Very Impressive! ! ! I compliment you on your ability to press the trigger with great consistency. Top shelf accurate cartridges mean nothing if you are not "in the groove" behind the rifle. It also takes that to know if you are headed in the right direction on your reloading. Kudos again to the cartridge chef and trigger squeezer.
Robert

 

[swadiver]

I want to thank all of you for all the great information given freely on this site. My shooting and reloading.tecniques have improved greatly since i joined this site. Now i don't have one of those custom benchrest rifles. I just have a home made savage. Target action with shilen 6Br prefit in a SSS benchrest stock. Had Fred at SSS time and true and install his benchrest trigger and bed the action. One day i hope to have a custom 6PPC I can shoot bugholes with. Until then i will keep working with what i got.

Anyway i started with this and was pretty happy. Berger 105 hybrid, 29.4 gr varget, jammed .010,.br4s

Then i went to work on all the stuff on this site. I am just trying it all. Finding out what works and what doesn't.

Did seating depth test and found .005 off shot really well. Then did a new load test from 29.3 to 30.1 in .01 increments. All were good but 30 was best. Then i sorted bullets by weight and base to ogive. Bergers are really consistent but i did cull a few. Then i weigh sorted my lapua brass. Culled a few of them. I do anneal and do it a lot more often now. Then i found neck turning. Always been afraid try it. Its easy. I know it improved my concetricity and i believe it.improved neck tension. Bought the 21st century shooting hydro press from advice on this forum. Now i sort those with the.same seating pressure and the use my 21st century concentricity gauge to sort out the best. The target below shows my improvement. Now if i can just improve the consistency of my reloads. Going to try some berger 80 gr flat base now. This will be my long.range load.

ES 16 SD 5.2

3 or 5 shot groups?

 

[Richard Coody]

3 or 5 shot groups?

5 shots

This is 15 shots with my magnetospeed attached.
With on target it measured slightly less than half inch and most of those i culled for concentricity

 

[swadiver]

excellent

 

[gotcha]

Excellent work !! Your "thank you" puts you head and shoulders above those threads where the OP never even bothers to respond despite volumes of input from the peanut gallery. Include me in those who appreciate your thoughtfulness.

 

[Richard Coody]

Excellent work !! Your "thank you" puts you head and shoulders above those threads where the OP never even bothers to respond despite volumes of input from the peanut gallery. Include me in those who appreciate your thoughtfulness.

Well i have learned so much reading these threads. All the things i am trying.i learned right here.

It is entertaining to read all the strong opinions here. My thoughts are what works for you. But you will never know unless you try it.

I have a whole new group of.ideas to try now.

Ordered a harrel die and some bushings. Ordered the k& m mandrel neck sizing kit. Going to try to get neck tension more consistent. I know what seating pressure works best with my hydro press. That will be a learning experience.

Ordered some berger 80gr flat base. Here they work really well for short.range in the 6BR. Going to try H4895 first. Have a few ideas.

The 105 hybrids will stay my long range load. That is if i ever find a place to shoot 600 yrds.

 

[gotcha]

Any other suggestions.

I use the same bullet in my 6BR. Try a .015" jam, that way you'll not experience any deterioration in accuracy should your throat erode by a few thou. Like you I started at .010" then moved to .015" for this reason and no deterioration of accuracy or excessive pressure signs........ I'm shooting a medium hot load so let common sense prevail if your load is HOT............. and keep on keepin' on

 

[Fotheringill]

OP- You are my hero.

 

[T-shooter]

I think there is a lot to be had from neck tension. After having a cold weld condition on 6-7 rounds out of 100 I loaded less than a year ago (Hornady brass and bullets). Never would have known if I hadn't pulled a box apart to adjust the powder loads. Everything was done the same and they only had .001" interference fit. Using a collet puller, most come out easy but the 6-7 were in so tight I had to smack the press handle to break them loose and the collet had to be tight enough to mar the bullets. So now I don't use a liquid or paste lubricant inside the necks, just the graphite, and give them a coating of graphite powder before loading. I will pull a few in a year or so and see if anything happens. I thought of using the Unique case lube for seating. They do slide in easy and pull easy. But I wondered what would happen if it dried out or possibly a round left in a hot chamber for whatever reason. I heated one with a torch, not nearly as hot as you would get it annealing. Red Loctite couldn't hold any better. I couldn't pull them with a collet puller. So, none of that in the necks any more for me. An alternative to the Imperial dry lube I use now (with the application media beads) would be HBN (Hexagonal Boron Nitride) which is also a dry powder but has more lubricating qualities.

 

[Richard Coody]

I size, tumble, use a wilson decapping rod to clear the flash holes,.brush out necks, champher, clean primer pockets, prime, charge with the Adams autotrickler and seat bullets with wilson dies and the hydropress all the night before going to the range.

Don't let sized cases sit or loaded rounds.

Experimented with soft seating and may revisit the idea after i get things a.little better dialed in. Another option to explore is load long and finish seating right before shooting.

Right now i am trying to eliminate all the variables so i am taking no chances.

 

[.22gongzilla]

...there are many out there that shoot better than me that don't believe in cleaning. Whatever works for you...

...I'm big on cleaning too especially when wadding. Amazing what a couple of passes with an oiled bronze brush will dislodge after just a few rounds.