Texas vs Australia Fly Shoot Entry

[onelastshot]

We shoot a series of clay bird matches here (www.texasbenchrest.com) where muzzle brakes are allowed and just deal with it. It is what it is. So, we are not unfamiliar with having a brake on either side of us while being serious shooters who concentrate on the job at hand. And, while we compete seriously, we do indeed have fun at it.
BTW, the wiki may state that anyone from the US is a yank but you have to remember, this is TEXAS, and we rightly don't take to being called yanks.

joe

Muzzle breaks are for wanna be shooters; if you can't handle the cartridge find something smaller to shoot. Serious shooters don't use muzzle breaks. Lastly, if you don't like being called a Yank, grow up. Take your thin skin and go home if you can't deal with something as silly as being called a yank. Just because your from Texas, it doesn't give you the right to make the rules.

 

[Peter64]

peter64
The Texas T shirt made my day

Yeah, that was funny. "Belle" (aka Michael Bell) had that on. He also posted a few pics on the 500 fly shooter page.

http://www.500mflyshooter.com.au/index.cfm/photos/

 

[JoeDuke]

Love the Tee shirt as well!

 

[JoeDuke]

Muzzle breaks are for wanna be shooters; if you can't handle the cartridge find something smaller to shoot. Serious shooters don't use muzzle breaks. Lastly, if you don't like being called a Yank, grow up. Take your thin skin and go home if you can't deal with something as silly as being called a yank. Just because your from Texas, it doesn't give you the right to make the rules.

My comment about Texan and not Yank was made in jest in this mock battle of words. Not thin skinned at all. Just proud of who I am and where I am from, as I am sure you are also. But now that you mention it, Belle's tee shirt says it all.

 

[Iowa Fox]

Want to thank these donors again. This same group has been helping me put together prize tables for matches since I built the Pine Valley Range in 2010.
We are proud to bring Fly Shoots to the USA. Its my hope that this format will catch on and grow here. The rules are simple, no 30 page rule book that everyone interprets differently.
The Fly Shooters in Australia have bent over backwards to help me put this together.
They sent the scoring program to me which is a very impressive piece of programming.
They go as far as calling me regularly to give me advice and answer my questions.
Now we just have to beat their ass at this match!!!

Donors:
Alloy Targets
Sierra Bullets
L. E. Wilson
Whidden Gunworks
Pine Valley Precision
K&M Precision
Redding
Burris
Shilen Rifles Inc.
Krieger Barrels
Powder Valley
Edgewood Shooting Bags
Forster Products
Danny Keeney
Applied Ballistics- Bryan Litz
PMA Tool

Thanks for posting the names of the sponsors. I spend my money with the folks that support us. If you want muzzle blast sit down in the middle of this line. Muzzle blast and burned powder is an adrenaline rush. Look at those small group sizes.

http://www.moaguns.com/MOA2011shootphotos.html

 

[mikecockcroft]

Donor banner hung over stat shack

 

[mikecockcroft]

Onelastshot
Myself and my Aussie friends worked out the rules for the match. Since I paid to build the range and paid for the match, I didn't see the need to contact you for your opinion on how to run it. Don't expect any phone calls from me asking for advice on running my future matches either.
Not sure what you have personally done for the shooters of Arizona but don't come on here berating me or my friends who have probably done more to promote Benchrest shooting then you ever will.
Mike cockcroft

 

[double g]

Way to go Mike!
Donnel

 

[Mega]

https://1drv.ms/a/s!AurArHzcId9ogXbe-nZ8pQyJFsMe

Link to pictures from the match at Pine Valley
Let me know if the link does or does not work
mike

Thanks so much for posting the great collection of photos.

Some very nice equipment on display. What a great looking Range and overall setup, a real credit to you Mike.

Looks like the Ladies are enjoying themselves and good to see a great roll out of shooters overall.

Got to love "Belly" and his promotion Tee Shirt, he is one great character and always a pleasure to have a yarn with at our shoots. Not to mention he is a top competitor and promoter of this sport.

From looking at the targets it looks like most got the hang of it and some pretty good looking groups of shots around and on the Fly.

Keep up the great work and hope the next Fly Shoot goes very well for you. Give yourself a great pat on the back, you deserve it.

 

[X-Caveman]

Thanks for the pics, Mike. There's a great one of @Dino scratching his forehead. Pretty much sums up about 1/2 of my relays.

Did you post the group shot taken at the end? Maybe I just missed it.

 

[RDavies]

Muzzle breaks are for wanna be shooters; if you can't handle the cartridge find something smaller to shoot. Serious shooters don't use muzzle breaks.

Not sure if you are talking about brakes? If so, it would seem there are not many serious shooters shooting 1000yd LG

 

[jdh47]

Mike, thanks for posting the pics. I know it was a fine shoot. You have a great range and I know you all worked your butts off getting everything right.

Wish I could have been there. Perhaps next time.

Joe

 

[mikecockcroft]

Travis
Have more photos and group photo. Will get them posted.

 

[RWilson]

Mike, is this rivalry going to continue? I think that it adds a lot to the matches. Has there been any consideration of having a trophy that would list the winner each year and reside with the winning group until they are beaten? It could be displayed at the matches. There are multiple ways the winner could be determined but I would lean toward an average of an equal number of the top scores for a particular match; possibly the last match of the year.

Thanks again to the Australians for coming up with this match and to Mike for introducing us to this great form of competition.

 

[mikecockcroft]

Ron
Fly Shoots will go on next year at Pine Valley. Will they be postal matches with the Aussies? That is my goal.
The Fly Shoots in Australia are sanctioned by the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia, SSAA.
I may have stepped on a few toes when I put this thing together. I'm pretty good at that sort of thing. There is a lot of support from the Aussie shooters to continue with informal postal matches and some want to go beyond that making it a formal international competition.
We are working on it, will see what the future holds.
If other ranges in Texas, La., or Ok
have 600 yd berms and would like to host a Fly Shoot I can bring my target skids and plates to their range for their first shoot and help them host a Fly Shoot.
Mike

 

[RWilson]

Mike
When you jump into a new project you do it with both feet...
My hat is off to you...

 

[Tiger73]

G’day Mike, You’ve done a great job getting this under way in Texas, I hope it goes well for you.

Thanks to Belly for taking photos for us, I was busy all day running the shoot with my team of volunteers so it was much appreciated. I liked the Texas photos, some really nice gear on the line.

For everybody else’s information I’ve included Mike in the planning for the Aussie 2018 Fly Calendar of events so we can try to pair up other Pine Valley events with shoots at the ranges in Australia for more informal postal shoots, the shooters here really enjoyed the concept and it was a hot topic on the day.

Somebody asked why we don’t add aiming marks to our splash plates?
With some of the more anaemic calibers that people sometimes use it can be hard to see the strike on the splash plate in heavy mirage, leaving the plate a uniform colour reduces the chance of not being able to see the fall of shot.
In heavy winds I might wind some windage on my scope and then still favour the side of the plate that the wind is coming from to maximise the chance of hitting the splash plate. At the event last weekend I had 1.5MOA right wind on the scope, held the right hand edge of the plate and only just hit the left hand edge of the plate... an aiming mark isn’t much help in that situation. That was also with a 180 7mm Berger at 2725fps out of my .284 so not too anaemic.

Regarding muzzle brakes, we just don’t use them, and never have in this discipline, it’s not that they are terrible or anything, I use them in other disciplines quire happily. Each to their own. I have a lot of respect for the people that shot the match and re-barrelled rifles or took their brakes off so that the scores could be directly compared between the two events. Kudos from me.

Cheers

Dave Groves

 

[JoeDuke]

G’day Mike, You’ve done a great job getting this under way in Texas, I hope it goes well for you.

Thanks to Belly for taking photos for us, I was busy all day running the shoot with my team of volunteers so it was much appreciated. I liked the Texas photos, some really nice gear on the line.

For everybody else’s information I’ve included Mike in the planning for the Aussie 2018 Fly Calendar of events so we can try to pair up other Pine Valley events with shoots at the ranges in Australia for more informal postal shoots, the shooters here really enjoyed the concept and it was a hot topic on the day.

Somebody asked why we don’t add aiming marks to our splash plates?
With some of the more anaemic calibers that people sometimes use it can be hard to see the strike on the splash plate in heavy mirage, leaving the plate a uniform colour reduces the chance of not being able to see the fall of shot.
In heavy winds I might wind some windage on my scope and then still favour the side of the plate that the wind is coming from to maximise the chance of hitting the splash plate. At the event last weekend I had 1.5MOA right wind on the scope, held the right hand edge of the plate and only just hit the left hand edge of the plate... an aiming mark isn’t much help in that situation. That was also with a 180 7mm Berger at 2725fps out of my .284 so not too anaemic.

Regarding muzzle brakes, we just don’t use them, and never have in this discipline, it’s not that they are terrible or anything, I use them in other disciplines quire happily. Each to their own. I have a lot of respect for the people that shot the match and re-barrelled rifles or took their brakes off so that the scores could be directly compared between the two events. Kudos from me.

Cheers

Dave Groves

Having shot 600 and 1,000 yard events, I am familiar with holding the edge of the plate to adjust for the wind. Was just curious about the no aiming point. I could deal with either one. I can understand the rationale for not hiding the smaller caliber splash marks also having shot the 6mm at 1,000. It can get real faint depending on where u hit on the plate. If you hit right in an old dimple caused by a larger bullet, it can leave a very small mark.
Looking forward to more of these matches.

joe

 

[mikecockcroft]

https://1drv.ms/a/s!AurArHzcId9ogX47S45pvTt0M8d_
few more pictures

 

[mikecockcroft]

If you won something from the prize table please email or call the vendor and say thank you. Please don't just send in the order form without thanking them!!!