tell me about Leupolds comp. series 45x45

[jghoghunter]

How old are these scopes?
Has anybody tested these with a scope checker?
Those that have them do you use them from 100yds to 1000yds? If you do are they repeatable and do you like them.
Hows the glass compared to a NF BR series 12-42?

 

[USMCDOC]

How old are these scopes?
Has anybody tested these with a scope checker?
Those that have them do you use them from 100yds to 1000yds? If you do are they repeatable and do you like them.
Hows the glass compared to a NF BR series 12-42?

The lack of responses should tell you something..

 

[jghoghunter]

The lack of responses should tell you something..

I understand what you are saying but with all these supposed bad Leupold scopes where are all the people to back them up.

 

[LHSmith]

This will start a flaming war for sure.....but.....Short Range Benchrest group competition is arguably the most stringent test on optics equipment -matches have been won by as small as 0.001" difference in match aggs (five 5 shot targets).Check the equipment lists. IBS, NBRSA......LCS's are still in the majority in top 10 finishers and still win matches. Very few reports have been published about LCS scope checker results. Keep in mind that scopes that are sent in for checking have been suspected of erratic performance. The recent results show that virtually all manufacturers are not immune to POA shifting.

 

[LHSmith]

The LCS series was introduced around 2002 replacing the 36x M8 style.

 

[jghoghunter]

Thanks for letting me know when they were introduced.

 

[USMCDOC]

I understand what you are saying but with all these supposed bad Leupold scopes where are all the people to back them up.

i did it more so to stir the pot for responses.. not so much that i was inferring that they are all bad.. any company can have lemons

 

[LHSmith]

A few years back, scuttlebutt in the loading area was that LCS's with "M" suffix (2004 vintage) and "N" (2005 vintage) supposedly had problems with inferior parts. These were built shortly before and during the attempts to "freeze" the internals.
I had a "M" model, sent it in for repair. After it came back, I won the very next match with that scope. However, annectdotal evidence does not prove anything. I plan to have all three of my LCS's and a M8 36x checked with a scope checker in the next few weeks.
It just sucks to no end, after spending lots of $$ and time on this sport to know that no matter how well you prepped, how well you read conditions, or how well you minimized bench mistakes....that it a win was never going to happen because of a moving reticle.

 

[LHSmith]

BTW- I use them for SR Score 100-300 yds only.

 

[joed49]

I still have one M8 36x scope left, anyone care to take a guess how old it is? It's still in use on one of my varmint rifles.

But, this thread caught my interest because I have to ask what is a scope checker?

 

[jghoghunter]

Hopefully we can get some people talking

 

[LHSmith]

Well,

I still have one M8 36x scope left, anyone care to take a guess how old it is? It's still in use on one of my varmint rifles.

Well I had a new M8 24x back around '72, so I'd hazard a guess of mid '60's. IIRC, the box was marked 24x, and the scope was actually a 36x. Returned it to the dealer for the correct one because it was just for varmints at the time, not targets.

 

[BoydAllen]

Some years ago, before the advent of the March scopes, Lou Murdica did a test of the 45X Leupolds. He bought eight new and tested them using a scope checker. Half moved. Half did not. The ones that moved moved from .020 to .060 at 100 yards, all in the same direction. Some took a few shots to move. I do not know if Leupold has made any changes to those scopes since he bought those.

Most of the recently published scope testing has been done on variable scopes, because that is what the long distance shooters favor. Because there have been alternatives (March, IOR Valdada(sp?), NF fixed power) there has been much less interest in frozen scopes and external adjustment rings, but from time to time one comes up for sale.

A while back I did some asking around and found one scope repair service that said that they would freeze a scope but because they had not done one, did not have a price. An alternative is to test unfrozen scopes and if they stay on the same point then they are both good, at which point either might be used as a reference.

 

[thekriebles]

...But, this thread caught my interest because I have to ask what is a scope checker?

Here are some links: http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/scope-testing.3928325/page-41#post-37128340

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/a-new-take-on-picatinny-scope-checkers.3929786/

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/hood-scope-checkers.3925525/

 

[jghoghunter]

Ttt

 

[Jet]

I have two and have checked them on my scope checker. One moved a little and settled down and the other moved a bunch. Haven't sent it in to Leupold yet but will one of these days. I've used the good one on a 11lb 6 dasher at 1K and it works well. Never shot it at LR in heavy mirage so don't know how it would fair. If that was the only scope I had and couldn't afford a variable I wouldn't hesitate to use it. Glass is real good for my eyes and is better than NF BR but not by much.

Good shooting

Rich

 

[JEFFPPC]

Tried to call you, no answer. You have been beaten by my two quite a few times. I have had mine for about 16 yrs I believe. These are the only scopes I shoot competition with that have never been back for service. NF has been back twice and my Vortex GE once.Service on both was excellent. On a dark day NF BR is the brightest. On days I shoot two guns, some days I like one better than the other but seems to change maybe due to conditions. As far as holding impact I think that is just like barrels, some good some not always perfect. I do think scopes have become the whipping boy when things don't go as planned. I gave this thought no a well known shooter at an IBS National Championship a while back and he said he totally agreed but said don't say it out loud or will not be very popular. I like my Leupold Competitions.