Tack Driver IV

[Tim Singleton]

2 rows of flags if it ment that much to the shooter.
Can't see but 3 or 4 in the scope any way.

My buddy and i set two rows out all the time he is a lefty

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

It wouldn't be Tack Driver if I didn't have "traveling home issues."

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[WillyTP]

Bless your heart!

 

[DumpHollow]

Just curious, going back to 2020, the Tack Driver was billed as a contest for all comers to sort out which competitive rifle discipline is the king of accuracy and precision. Have there been any F-Class or PRS rifles shot in this match? Absent of a detailed equipment list, It's tough to tell. It appears as though BR dominates this match.

 

[Tim Singleton]

Just curious, going back to 2020, the Tack Driver was billed as a contest for all comers to sort out which competitive rifle discipline is the king of accuracy and precision. Have there been any F-Class or PRS rifles shot in this match? Absent of a detailed equipment list, It's tough to tell. It appears as though BR dominates this match.

At the first one there was quite a few of those kind of guys even team Hornaday was there
I dont think they have been back

 

[jcline]

Just curious, going back to 2020, the Tack Driver was billed as a contest for all comers to sort out which competitive rifle discipline is the king of accuracy and precision. Have there been any F-Class or PRS rifles shot in this match? Absent of a detailed equipment list, It's tough to tell. It appears as though BR dominates this match.

There has been a few over the past 4 years show up to shoot. I have personally called some of the top shooters in both disciplines listed above and invited them to come. This match has lately been predominantly Benchrest shooters from Group, Score and long range as well as many groundhog match shooters.

 

[jackieschmidt]

The stark reality is if you give a good Benchrest Shooter a well tuned 6PPC or BR and a good set of flags out to 400 yards, he will beat you.

Flags and the ability to use the info they give you is the BIG difference, because that gives the rifle combination with the best accuracy potential a huge advantage.

The only way to give other combinations a better chance is to ban wind flags. Then, rifles that depend on other parameters of down range performance would have a better chance.

There are plenty of Matches where Rifles suited for F Class, High Power, Precision Rifle, etc are better suited for.

 

[Bc'z]

The stark reality is if you give a good Benchrest Shooter a well tuned 6PPC or BR and a good set of flags out to 400 yards, he will beat you.

Flags and the ability to use the info they give you is the BIG difference, because that gives the rifle combination with the best accuracy potential a huge advantage.

The only way to give other combinations a better chance is to ban wind flags. Then, rifles that depend on other parameters of down range performance would have a better chance.

There are plenty of Matches where Rifles suited for F Class, High Power, Precision Rifle, etc are better suited for.

Jackie the 1st paragraph I believe.
I just can't wrap my head around a custom Fopen rifle not being competitive on the same course of fire.
Which makes me wonder how a Fopen rifle would preform in a srbr shooters hands such as yourself

 

[Roy H]

Eathen Henry shot an f class rifle td 2 I believe, he was top 5 somewhere

 

[Dave Way]

We are only talking 300m. Most any custom built target rifle would be competitive. Some certainly have advantages due to weight, stock design, cartridge choice and related recoil.

I already know what I will bring next year. I took possession of a beautiful 10.5 pound PPC a month or so back, so I wanted to try it. It shot well but I had to reacquire the target after each shot. Next year the rifle I bring will be capable of running 5 shots in a matter of seconds.

I’m not sure what the perfect set up would be for this match but I’m working on figuring it out. If I never do though, the match is a blast anyway!

Dave.

 

[jcline]

Attached are the smallest groups best scores and winners by year.

Tack Driver History "Best of the Best"
AGG Winner	Event	AGG	Group Winner	Event	AGG		Score Winner	Event	Score
Jeff Peinhardt	TD-1	5	Jeff Peinhardt	TD-1	0.8638		Jeff Summers	TD-1	242-2X
Bart Sauter	TD-2	10	Eddie Harris	TD-2	0.9394		Wayne France	TD-2	247-2X
Bart Sauter	TD-3	7	Wayne Campbell	TD-3	0.691		Bart Sauter	TD-3	243-5X
Wayne Campbell	TD-4	11	Wayne Campbell	TD-4	0.7028		Derick Loflin	TD-4	245-2X
Name	Samllest Group	Event	Name	Best Score	Event
George Cabrera	0.337	TD-4	Roy Hunter	50-3X	TD-1
Wayne France	0.358	TD-4	Ron Prevette	50-3X	TD-2
Jeff Summers	0.396	TD-1
Jeff Thompson	0.406	TD-3
Wayne Campbell	0.424	TD-3
Team winners	AGG
Stacked Deck	24	TD-1	Campbell, Williamson, Hunter, Peinhardt
Tack Drivers	45	TD-2	Sauter, Harris, Chaney, Stevens
Misfits	53	TD-3	Shifflet, Thompson, Ross, English
Choke and spit		TD-4	Campbell, Williamson, Hunter, Peinhardt

 

[Bc'z]

We are only talking 300m. Most any custom built target rifle would be competitive. Some certainly have advantages due to weight, stock design, cartridge choice and related recoil.

I already know what I will bring next year. I took possession of a beautiful 10.5 pound PPC a month or so back, so I wanted to try it. It shot well but I had to reacquire the target after each shot. Next year the rifle I bring will be capable of running 5 shots in a matter of seconds.

I’m not sure what the perfect set up would be for this match but I’m working on figuring it out. If I never do though, the match is a blast anyway!

Dave.

Have you ever shot at this range before TD4?
I've seen all the pictures of flags going every which way even in the same row.
How can a person decipher where to hold is beyond me.
Was it more challenging to shoot the TD versus the LRBR you normally participate in?
Congratulations on a great finish!

 

[Dave Way]

Thanks. It’s very challenging. I shot TD2 so yes I had been there before. They are both changeling in different ways. At 1K, wind reading is difficult so most guys just run the shots quickly. At 600 it’s pretty much the same thing but sometimes the flags will give you enough information to hold off. At 300 and in, I love to see a sea of flags. I have no idea how others do it but I look at the field as a whole and look for general movements as they make their way across the spread. I know others pick out certain flags.

Dave.

 

[wvlongshot]

I tried looking at past rules, are muzzle brakes allowed?

 

[jcline]

I tried looking at past rules, are muzzle brakes allowed?

Radial brakes only

 

[wvlongshot]

Radial brakes only

Thanks Jim.

 

[Riesel]

Start on post 82
On tack driver live results thread

Thanks

 

[Roy H]

We are only talking 300m. Most any custom built target rifle would be competitive. Some certainly have advantages due to weight, stock design, cartridge choice and related recoil.



I’m not sure what the perfect set up would be for this match but I’m working on figuring it out. If I never do though, the match is a blast anyway!

Dave.

I feel like it would be any gun the shooter is comfortable with, light varmints, heavy varmints long range and f open guns have been at the top.

 

[DaveTooley]

Jackie the 1st paragraph I believe.
I just can't wrap my head around a custom Fopen rifle not being competitive on the same course of fire.
Which makes me wonder how a Fopen rifle would preform in a srbr shooters hands such as yourself

It is a mental game which requires an accurate rifle. My problem Sunday was I got up and shot like I was a LR shooter, get started and keep going, vs a SR guy picking his way through the conditions. SR guys work the problem. LR guys over power the problem. The LR guys need to prepare by shooting 200-300 yds over wind flags.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Jackie the 1st paragraph I believe.
I just can't wrap my head around a custom Fopen rifle not being competitive on the same course of fire.
Which makes me wonder how a Fopen rifle would preform in a srbr shooters hands such as yourself

While talking to a couple of long range shooters who were there, I told them that a competent Long Range Shooter with a capable rifle could be very competitive in this Format.

One plainly stated that reading the flags was his biggest challenge. As Short Range Shooters, many of us won’t even bother to go to the range without our flags. Shooting without flags would be akin to leaving your bolt at home.

I think the Ballistic Coefficient thing is overrated at this distance, especially in the Score portion of the Match, especially if it does compromise “agging capability” for down range ballistic performance. It makes no difference if you have to hold one line, or three lines. If you know where the wind is taking the bullets, you can put them on the 10 ring. The key is knowing where the wind takes the bullets and having an accurate enough combination to trust the rifle to do it’s part.

This is one thing I have learned from our 100/200 yard Club Matches at Tomball, where we shoot the standard NBRSA Score Format, where the rules are you can shoot any legal fire arm.We have shooters show up with excellent FClass, Precision Rifles, and well put together Custom Varmint Rifles. They are chambered in the various Creedmore, 308, or any round that stresses High Ballistic Coefficient combinations designed to “buck the wind” at longer distances.
None do very well at 100/200 yards against the usual array of 30BR’s and 6 PPC’s.

They simply are not accurate enough over the course of fire If going against an extremely accurate short range Competitor who has a handle on the conditions.