STUCK CLEANIMG ROD AND JAG

[rjtfroggy]

I thank you all for the answers that you gave.
I have successfully removed everything from the barrel with no apparent damage.
Vise grips very tightly clamped down on rod and was able to unscrew rod from jag and stuck patch, then with a solid brass rod I was able to gently tap out the jag and mangled patch.
This is what happens when you get a call that your 95 years old mother has fallen twice in a few hours and your mind wonders away from what you are doing.
Now tomorrow I have to take a ride down to Dewey's shop for a new rod and some jags. then put the rifle back together.
Thanks again.

 

[55fairlane]

Glad you got it out......after in aid wood dowe rod, I got thinking.....make a slide hammer to thread in your rod or jag? Or a brass rod that has been center drilled....the center drill to help keep the rod lined up with the jag.......

Soooooooo very happy you got the job done with damage.....

Aaron

 

[GNERGY]

I personally don't use cleaning jags, I use a nylon brush with a patch wrapped around it to clean my barrels. I have seen more guys at the range trying to pound a stuck jag down there barrel. I saw a guy holding the rifle and tapping the handle on the bench to get the jag down the barrel. I don't see how the jag gets the patch to confoem to the rifling to clean it?
Tarey
Glad you got it out.

 

[dkhunt14]

I personally don't use cleaning jags, I use a nylon brush with a patch wrapped around it to clean my barrels. I have seen more guys at the range trying to pound a stuck jag down there barrel. I saw a guy holding the rifle and tapping the handle on the bench to get the jag down the barrel. I don't see how the jag gets the patch to confoem to the rifling to clean it?
Tarey
Glad you got it out.

The patch is to introduce chemicals that do the cleaning. It should not be a super tight fit. A brush removes the stuff after soaking. Matt

 

[fguffey]

I personally don't use cleaning jags, I use a nylon brush with a patch wrapped around it to clean my barrels. I have seen more guys at the range trying to pound a stuck jag down there barrel. I saw a guy holding the rifle and tapping the handle on the bench to get the jag down the barrel. I don't see how the jag gets the patch to confoem to the rifling to clean it?

I make a cleaning system that is impossible to lock up in the barrel, and if someone managed to get it locked up all they would have to do is take it apart in the barrel, and then there is wrapping the jag; no jag required. Brushes? That is different but I do not suggest wrapping the brush.

An old friend called and asked about a stuck jag, I drove a few miles to recover the rifle and then started with the understanding his smith told me 'he stuck a jag'. After I started I called him and ask him about the bullet ahead of the jag, after that I asked him about the 1/4" drill bit that was broken off in front of the bullet. The smith was supposed to blue the rifle and refinish the stock.

F. Guffey

 

[Eddie Harren]

I make a cleaning system that is impossible to lock up in the barrel, and if someone managed to get it locked up all they would have to do is take it apart in the barrel, and then there is wrapping the jag; no jag required. Brushes? That is different but I do not suggest wrapping the brush.

An old friend called and asked about a stuck jag, I drove a few miles to recover the rifle and then started with the understanding his smith told me 'he stuck a jag'. After I started I called him and ask him about the bullet ahead of the jag, after that I asked him about the 1/4" drill bit that was broken off in front of the bullet. The smith was supposed to blue the rifle and refinish the stock.

F. Guffey

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[LHSmith]

He's Back!

From the archives, I'd say the '70's, his hair is much longer now and he has not smiled since the millennium.

 

[Medic505]

He should write a book......

 

[orbitup]

I like SpeerChucker's setup:

That's awesome!

 

[yukonal]

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Get a pair of vise grips and grab the rod in front of the handle. Edit; It may take two pairs of pliers.
Tap on the vise grips with a hammer to back the rod back out.
The rod may not move easily if the patch stays on the jag but it won't get any tighter.

This should work. And it wouldn't hurt to put 2 or 3 vise grips on...in line, touching each other, and tap on the last one.

 

[Steve Ladino]

Embarrassed to even admit to this dumb assed mistake, but I wrapped a jag with a 30 cal. patch and got everything stuck 3/4 of the way through a 6mm barrel.
Does anyone know of any way to get them out.
I already broke the rod handle off trying to smack it through, and right now it is soaking in oil.
I'm open to any well almost any ideas.

Done something like that too.....I would weld another handle on the SS rod then tie the handle to the center beam in your basement sort of high. remove stock and use your body weight and tugs to pull the rod out......don't give up.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I can see a broken tailbone happening there.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

From the archives, I'd say the '70's, his hair is much longer now and he has not smiled since the millennium.

oh no he smiled when that junkyard called him with all the scrap 30-06 brass.

 

[JFrank]

I thank you all for the answers that you gave.
I have successfully removed everything from the barrel with no apparent damage.
Vise grips very tightly clamped down on rod and was able to unscrew rod from jag and stuck patch, then with a solid brass rod I was able to gently tap out the jag and mangled patch.
This is what happens when you get a call that your 95 years old mother has fallen twice in a few hours and your mind wonders away from what you are doing.
Now tomorrow I have to take a ride down to Dewey's shop for a new rod and some jags. then put the rifle back together.
Thanks again.

I've been following your post Sir'
glad to see you were successful in removing the jag.
Was this a 22 caliber jag?
J

 

[mikecockcroft]

everyone said don't try anything, don't try to knock it out, take it to a gunsmith!!!!
What do they think the gunsmith was going to do to get it out?? Voodoo or something

 

[X Ring Accuracy]

We all miss Chucker

 

[LGKLAS]

Old thread revived with problem solved. But in reading it, some ideas were quite creative and imaginative. So, here is one. Assuming patch and jag are stuck by entering barrel from breech end. From muzzle end, pour some charcoal lighter fluid down the barrel. I'm not thinking enough to fill the barrel, rather enough so you are a little confident you've give the stuck patch a bit of a soak. Then run some dry patches down the barrel to mop up the lighter fluid from the muzzle to where the patch/jag is stuck. This will also push any reluctant fluid toward and into the stuck patch. Position rifle so both ends are facing in a safe direction. Then light a match or use a striker (muzzle end) and get the stuck patch lit on fire. This is not going to cause any higher temps occurring in the barrel than a bullet and burning powder following it does. If this works it should burn the stuck patch to ashes or at least enough of it to free things up to be able to remove the stuck mess. Then clean barrel per usual. Tongue-half-in-cheek, lg

 

[Dave Hull]

Glad I too am not the only one!
This happens from time to time with me (for no apparent repeatable reason).
I take the boom-stick out of the vice, turn it up right, drop a few drops of patch-fluid straight down the barrel and wait 3 mins or so.
I then stand it upright, with the rod against the floor, muzzle to the ceiling and tap it against the ground (gently).
It has always moved.
Then, back into the vice, a wet patch and through it goes, never a hitch after the first one.
-D.
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glad im not the only guy that does that kind of stuff...it seems that the more experience i gain (in years only) the more likely i am to mess up---at least you admit it---I try not to let my wife learn about my misshaps, she seems to bring them up...repeatedly
good luck!