Springfield 2020 RimFire
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Liven The Dream
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Lots of things said about them Rim Fire Central .
CZ 457 better deal ?
CZ 457 better deal ?
shoot4fun
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The Waypoint 2020 in 22LR can be found on GB for just over $400 including shipping.
That, to me anyway, is a pretty decent price. It isn't perfect as it comes from the factory but does use R700 replacement triggers and has a threaded muzzle for tuner or suppressor.
Most of the online reviews aren't glowing BUT many reviews (even Rifleshooter magazine) did the ammo testing phase with basically junk ammo. Stuff like Blazers and generally crap ammo.
If I didn't already own a CZ457 and a Vudoo repeater (and an Anschutz BR rifle) I would find a reason to lay down the cash for one to try.
That, to me anyway, is a pretty decent price. It isn't perfect as it comes from the factory but does use R700 replacement triggers and has a threaded muzzle for tuner or suppressor.
Most of the online reviews aren't glowing BUT many reviews (even Rifleshooter magazine) did the ammo testing phase with basically junk ammo. Stuff like Blazers and generally crap ammo.
If I didn't already own a CZ457 and a Vudoo repeater (and an Anschutz BR rifle) I would find a reason to lay down the cash for one to try.
the pros:
more accurate, better trigger, more aftermarket parts for customization
cons: hard to find magazines, $100 more
if the extra money and magazine shortage is a game stopper the Savage Mark II line is more accurate and less expensive than the Springfield and if the Ruger 10/22 mag is the big draw then get a Ruger American
For me accuracy is everything which is why I like the Tikkas and CZ's. If I just wanted a walk around plinker I would still go for the Savage or the Ruger over the Springfield because of the lower price and better triggers
Just for the record I do like Springfields, own 3 of them just that the .22 has a junky barrel and trigger from every honest review I have seen. If you want to drop a 200- 400 dollar trigger in a 400 dollar rifle that is a partial cure but that barrel is not so easy to fix
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3Ackleys
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I have the composite stocked model. Only had it out one time so far. It shot one ragged hole 10 shots @50Y with Center X and Norma Tac. I like the stock and that it takes 10/22 mags. Some of the wood stocked ones i've seen are very nice.
At this price point it is a very good deal. I have quite a few .22's- including 6 CZ-457's, an Anschutz 1710, Tikka, and some Browning, Rug.,Win, Rem's
In a very limited shooting, the waypoint shoots nearly as good as the Tikka and as good or better than stock CZ's (most of my CZ's have Lilja's or other aftermarket barrels).
To me the stock & magazine are better than the Tikka, and it's cheaper.
At this price point it is a very good deal. I have quite a few .22's- including 6 CZ-457's, an Anschutz 1710, Tikka, and some Browning, Rug.,Win, Rem's
In a very limited shooting, the waypoint shoots nearly as good as the Tikka and as good or better than stock CZ's (most of my CZ's have Lilja's or other aftermarket barrels).
To me the stock & magazine are better than the Tikka, and it's cheaper.
the Springfield waypoint is a centerfire rifle not a .22
I want one but the reviews are less than 50/50 on the accuracy it seems , everything else on the rifle is very favorable ,,,,, well except most don’t like actual ruger mags they fed better from the sprigfirld mag
One reviewer tweaked the action screws and the groups tightened up some not big holes but showed improvement
I saw a picture of the barrel removed and it’s threaded in the receiver with a cone breach so recrown and set back if you wanted to tinker ????
One reviewer tweaked the action screws and the groups tightened up some not big holes but showed improvement
I saw a picture of the barrel removed and it’s threaded in the receiver with a cone breach so recrown and set back if you wanted to tinker ????
They are made in Turkey by Retay and my guess although the barrels are threaded that during the heat treatment of the receiver it becomes slightly warped. Using the old Bill Calfee trick of using a "barrel nut" to allow a bit of float could very well cure the flyer problems.
I just hope Springfield recognizes that there is an issue and corrects it with a version 2 because a 2MOA rifle just won't cut it when you can get a 1MOA rifle for $100 more. The little $250 Savage I bought for a nephew @ 50 yards could shoot 3/4 inch groups pretty regularly using CCI
I just hope Springfield recognizes that there is an issue and corrects it with a version 2 because a 2MOA rifle just won't cut it when you can get a 1MOA rifle for $100 more. The little $250 Savage I bought for a nephew @ 50 yards could shoot 3/4 inch groups pretty regularly using CCI
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shoot4fun
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Technically you are correct but the confusion is likely since the CF are 2020 Waypoint and the rimfire version is simple SA 2020 Rimfire.
shoot4fun
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You do realize that your "little Savage" is NOT meeting SA's accuracy guarantee don't you?
A 3/4" group at do yards is not holding 1 MOA and is very close to 2 MOA.
Reading the SA accuracy guarantee says they guarantee 1MOA three-shot accuracy at 50 yards.
If you do own the new 2020 rimfire and are unhappy you should contact SA. If you don't own one and never even held or shot one you are merely giving opinion.
Before you ask, no, I do not own one either and have not handled (much less shot) the 2020 rimfire but I am not going to bash it until I have had hands on experience.
One quick look down the barrel of your Savage with a bore scope and you will likely be mortified and confused how such a crappy looking barrel can shoot as well as it does. Not to mention the Savage rimfire are generally ugly and clunky.
Yes I realize the Savage is only holding about 1.5 - 2.0 MOA, but it is doing so for a lot less than the Springfield. For $100 more a CZ American will easily do 1.0 MOA
According to Springfield the guarantee is 2.0 MOA @ 50 or in layman's term's 1.0 inch
I don't have to own something to read reviews by organizations and individuals that I trust, look at the manufacturer's promises etc to know it is not worth what it is being priced at.
Springfield should have known better than to release a rifle at that price point with a 2.0 MOA accuracy when the competition delivers the same or better performance for less money. Hopefully they will do something to improve the accuracy but being an apologist for them is not going to cure the problem for anyone
The Springfield name is on some fine firearms, this just isn't one of them
I just wonder if he is confused about which rifle he owns
shoot4fun
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Still, and you seem to have missed it, my point is you have yet to express anything but YOUR OPINION. If you have been to the range with one, thoroughly tested it with multiple ammo and found it failed in the areas SA has designated as positive feature then say so. Send us YOUR YT video of test & evaluation.
Don't just try to steer us to a Savage or a CZ on the fact it's what you have.
Got it???
the OP asked for thoughts and opinions, if you don't like mine there is a ignore function on the forum you can use
I also provided a few links to reviews to show why how and why I formed that opinion which to me outweighs any posts with no proof other than typing in "I own it and it is great"
to refresh your memory of the OP's post. I underlined the relevant part for you
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Gabe22BR
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I’m guessing you don’t own one, to try the trigger on, or haven’t adjusted yours yet??
nope don't plan on buying one either. According to Josh over at Pursuit of Accuracy the trigger is mushy, no defined break point and about 4 - 5 pounds as delivered from the factory. According to Springfield it is 3.5 from the factory and is adjustable but I seriously doubt a 3 -4 pound trigger could be brought below a pound safely without some modding. At least I have never heard of one. CZ 457's can be brought down to just under a pound but you need to replace a spring that can be had for dollar at Ace Hardware, $10 at Petes Pillars
If you say yours is adjustable to 6 ounces and you rifle will consistently shoot 1 MOA I will not call you a liar but there is not a Youtube review out there that got the results you claim to have gotten with any ammo from CCI to Eley Tenex and Lapua Exact.
Honestly, if I thought the rifle would be capable of consistent ammo .5 groups with any ammo I would buy one of the $900 + with the AAA walnut stock like yours and drop a Timney, Diamond, or Bix and Andy in it in a heartbeat.
You link one Youtube review from an established reviewer that I trust backs up your claims and I will be ordering one before the end of the month. But I know you won't be able to do that because if Josh at Pursuit of Accuracy can't get one to shoot no one can.
In the meantime congratulation's on buying a real live unicorn
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