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Single Shot Actions

If the gap between the receiver flat and handle stop is only this size, from an old 40-X, it cams.

The bolt never rotates enough that the protruding handle would contact the receiver, but too much space means it was attached where the angled camming surfaces would also never touch.

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I’ve worked on about a gazillion 700’s from first year production up to the most current. I’ve seen everything from very good primary extraction to absolutely none. Early, late or in between there is no consistency. I will say poor primary extraction is more common than good. But inconsistently is the only consistency, lol.
 
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There is a video on Youtube from Alex Wheeler where he defines primary extraction on a 700, and he said that many of his customers send him factory 700s that are fine and needed no work at all.

When the words "all" and "every" get thrown around about Remington 700s (mostly referring to how they are all "wrong") I have to throw my bullpuckey chip.
 
There is a video on Youtube from Alex Wheeler where he defines primary extraction on a 700, and he said that many of his customers send him factory 700s that are fine and needed no work at all.

When the words "all" and "every" get thrown around about Remington 700s (mostly referring to how they are all "wrong") I have to throw my bullpuckey chip.

Perhaps. I knew nothing about primary extraction until I was bitten by it. From that point on it became one of the first things I look at. Every time I walk into a gun store and look at a 700, I check the primary extraction. Granted, my sample set is not 100% of production for the last 50 years but of those in my sample set, the older ones seem fine, the newer ones not so fine. And this appears to be what many are reporting.

My action was a SS Single Shot purchased from a reputable provider of actions, barrels and accessories. In spite of my past experiences with newer Remington products I figured they would not pass crap off onto this particular reseller. Way wrong. The 5% contact was basically a scratch across one lug. Once that was fixed, (still not perfect but maybe 85 percent contact), the primary extraction issue reared its ugly head in F Class matches. At first I was thinking that maybe my loads were too hot. This in spite of the primers looking fine and no extractor marks on the cases. Once I found out what the issue was I sent the action to LRI where they remounted the bolt handle in the correct location and tig welded it on. No issues since.

The time and money I spent correcting the issues that should have been a non issues given current CNC Machine capabilities would have purchased a custom action. And that is what I did with the last action I picked up.
 
Perhaps. I knew nothing about primary extraction until I was bitten by it. From that point on it became one of the first things I look at. Every time I walk into a gun store and look at a 700, I check the primary extraction. Granted, my sample set is not 100% of production for the last 50 years but of those in my sample set, the older ones seem fine, the newer ones not so fine. And this appears to be what many are reporting.

My action was a SS Single Shot purchased from a reputable provider of actions, barrels and accessories. In spite of my past experiences with newer Remington products I figured they would not pass crap off onto this particular reseller. Way wrong. The 5% contact was basically a scratch across one lug. Once that was fixed, (still not perfect but maybe 85 percent contact), the primary extraction issue reared its ugly head in F Class matches. At first I was thinking that maybe my loads were too hot. This in spite of the primers looking fine and no extractor marks on the cases. Once I found out what the issue was I sent the action to LRI where they remounted the bolt handle in the correct location and tig welded it on. No issues since.

The time and money I spent correcting the issues that should have been a non issues given current CNC Machine capabilities would have purchased a custom action. And that is what I did with the last action I picked up.

I had a coned bolt from PTG that was assembled by one of the best gunsmiths in the country at the time, and it had ZERO primary extraction, to the point I broke the handle off trying to get the bolt open.
 
This is why I both love and hate factory production videos. My rose-tinted image of the things I love usually gets trammeled.
 
The 5% contact was basically a scratch across one lug. Once that was fixed, (still not perfect but maybe 85 percent contact), the primary extraction issue reared its ugly head in F Class matches. At first I was thinking that maybe my loads were too hot. This in spite of the primers looking fine and no extractor marks on the cases. Once I found out what the issue was I sent the action to LRI where they remounted the bolt handle in the correct location and tig welded it on. No issues since.

The time and money I spent correcting the issues that should have been a non issues given current CNC Machine capabilities would have purchased a custom action. And that is what I did with the last action I picked up.


So, the fact that these relatively simple actions can ship mis-made raises the question of how we can leave a two-hunt used Weatherby Mark V 9-lug walnut/ebony rifle marked in three figures on the shelves of gun stores.
 
So, the fact that these relatively simple actions can ship mis-made raises the question of how we can leave a two-hunt used Weatherby Mark V 9-lug walnut/ebony rifle marked in three figures on the shelves of gun stores.

Generally the caliber(s) they are offered in. Weatherby marches to a different drummer and no one seems to follow them. Not that their calibers are bad. They are probably very good but but how many are longing to own a 30-378 Weatherby mag.
 
Generally the caliber(s) they are offered in. Weatherby marches to a different drummer and no one seems to follow them. Not that their calibers are bad. They are probably very good but but how many are longing to own a 30-378 Weatherby mag.

All true. As much as I admire the precision and strength of their lock up, which reminds me of the interrupted lugs or threads of single shot artillery, and the flat bottom with integral lug, they are all repeaters and also a longer design than most people want. With their short lift it seems like someone might try one though to rebarrel but, no, I’ve never seen one in a match. Just thinking they represent a lot of value at the used gun price when I see them languishing.
 
Buds is also California friendly whereas Cheaper than dirt will never get a dime from me.
 
Accutriggers suck and a Salvage gets you in the same boat. You go through the things with new this and that to make them shoot and in the end you still have a Salvage with a junk trigger.

Ray
Ray said it right salvage is junk !!! I used to own one !!!!
 

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