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Sierra 69 Blitzkings

Always nice to have new bullets and Sierra's generally shoot well but this one is a little shy on BC with only a G1 .357

I think I'd probably opt for the 62 ELD-VT (G1 .395) but you also need a faster twist for those. Sierra says a 10tw will work for these 69gr BK's so I guess if you have something with a 10tw these could work well for you.
 
Will be interested to see the b.c. of the new 69 grain ELD-VT and how it shoots/ compares to the new Sierra 69.
Matt
 
If you can shot the difference in those 2 bc numbers your amoung the best shooters in the world. Sorting those bullets would tell me what bullet to use.

I go by hit percentage and carnage. Last trip to Colorado I got back to back doubles in 20 mph winds with the 62 eldvt. The improvement in the wind was very obvious over everything else.

It would be awesome if Sierra decided to compete with Hornady and actually create some new and innovative products for varmint shooters. Like Hornady did.

Sierra is always late to the varmint party. They were third in line to release after tipped varmint bullet after Nosler and Hornady.

I do find it ironic the Hornady bashing. Most of the time they are first to actually invent something new.
 
I go by hit percentage and carnage. Last trip to Colorado I got back to back doubles in 20 mph winds with the 62 eldvt. The improvement in the wind was very obvious over everything else.

It would be awesome if Sierra decided to compete with Hornady and actually create some new and innovative products for varmint shooters. Like Hornady did.

Sierra is always late to the varmint party. They were third in line to release after tipped varmint bullet after Nosler and Hornady.

I do find it ironic the Hornady bashing. Most of the time they are first to actually invent something new.
The 62 eld-vt did not shoot well for me above 3350 and it does blow up prairie dogs with ease. It unfortunately struggles on shoulders of coyotes. The same explosion but on the shoulder instead through the shoulder. The 70-80gr are better on Coyotes. The 64gr TGK is also better. A less expensive option to the Berger 70 and would be attractive to me.
 
I go by hit percentage and carnage. Last trip to Colorado I got back to back doubles in 20 mph winds with the 62 eldvt. The improvement in the wind was very obvious over everything else.

It would be awesome if Sierra decided to compete with Hornady and actually create some new and innovative products for varmint shooters. Like Hornady did.

Sierra is always late to the varmint party. They were third in line to release after tipped varmint bullet after Nosler and Hornady.

I do find it ironic the Hornady bashing. Most of the time they are first to actually invent something new.
Not only that, but usually more reasonably priced. Shoot a lot of 32 gr. .20 cal and 40-50 gr. .22 cal. for that reason and they work as well as Sierra with sufficient accuracy. I do use a lot of 39 BK's and happy that Sierra is going to make the 69 BK available (for 22-6mm) and still hoping they will release the 36 gr. .204 BK. Would be perfect wt. for the .20-222.
 
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I go by hit percentage and carnage. Last trip to Colorado I got back to back doubles in 20 mph winds with the 62 eldvt. The improvement in the wind was very obvious over everything else.

It would be awesome if Sierra decided to compete with Hornady and actually create some new and innovative products for varmint shooters. Like Hornady did.

Sierra is always late to the varmint party. They were third in line to release after tipped varmint bullet after Nosler and Hornady.

I do find it ironic the Hornady bashing. Most of the time they are first to actually invent something new.
The problems I have with Hornady is their marketing hype and blatant disregard for consistency when it comes to bullet weights and lengths. They just don't measure out well when compared to others. That may be where the cheaper cost comes in but I would much rather pay a little more to save me some time at the bench. I do have a couple of rifles that shoot Hornady bullets very well but they are never my first choice, I just go with what the rifle likes best.
 
The problems I have with Hornady is their marketing hype and blatant disregard for consistency when it comes to bullet weights and lengths. They just don't measure out well when compared to others. That may be where the cheaper cost comes in but I would much rather pay a little more to save me some time at the bench. I do have a couple of rifles that shoot Hornady bullets very well but they are never my first choice, I just go with what the rifle likes best.

I keep hearing this same complaint. Fair enough.

In my testing, I know that the 88 ELDM seats to within a thou round after round. About the same as Berger. It actually will easily outshoot the Berger 90 VLD in my test (for half the cost). I am not the only person who expressed these same findings. So, there must be more to shooting well than measuring bullets.

I think that if someone is buying $13 a hundred varmint bullets (that are meant to be used for bulk varmint carnage), and then these are compared to bullets that cost three times as much... I think that is a bit... disingenuous.

I think its great that Hornady keeps pushing innovation for varmint shooters, forcing the others to eventually trail behind (in my opinion, reluctantly).

PS: I like Sierra and Berger bullets.
 
I keep hearing this same complaint. Fair enough.

In my testing, I know that the 88 ELDM seats to within a thou round after round. About the same as Berger. It actually will easily outshoot the Berger 90 VLD in my test (for half the cost). I am not the only person who expressed these same findings. So, there must be more to shooting well than measuring bullets.

I think that if someone is buying $13 a hundred varmint bullets (that are meant to be used for bulk varmint carnage), and then these are compared to bullets that cost three times as much... I think that is a bit... disingenuous.

I think its great that Hornady keeps pushing innovation for varmint shooters, forcing the others to eventually trail behind (in my opinion, reluctantly).

PS: I like Sierra and Berger bullets.
Well they each have their target audience for sure. Unfortunately we shooters are a fickle bunch and want everything. Hornady does very good for the varmint crowd. "pushing innovation" is a stretch for me though. I will save my opinion on that for a different thread.
 
Well they each have their target audience for sure. Unfortunately we shooters are a fickle bunch and want everything. Hornady does very good for the varmint crowd. "pushing innovation" is a stretch for me though. I will save my opinion on that for a different thread.

Name any company that has developed a new varmint bullet in the last 20 years.
 
No but the ELD-VT has a huge void in the nose that makes it go splat ! And a really good BCView attachment 1684018

The ONLY high BC varmint bullets ever made are all from Hornady.

(I suppose there are a few Bergers that claim to be varmint bullets that have high bc. But no one uses them, their actual explosion properties are questionable, and they cost a fortune).

Hornady is the only company that has introduced a new varmint bullet since the 1990s. And no, Hornady did not invent the plastic tipped varmint bullet but they darn sure perfected it.

All the other companies will be copying them at this point.
 
The ONLY high BC varmint bullets ever made are all from Hornady.

(I suppose there are a few Bergers that claim to be varmint bullets that have high bc. But no one uses them, their actual explosion properties are questionable, and they cost a fortune).

Hornady is the only company that has introduced a new varmint bullet since the 1990s. And no, Hornady did not invent the plastic tipped varmint bullet but they darn sure perfected it.

All the other companies will be copying them at this point.
This is exactly correct. I would never go so far as to say that Hornady makes the best bullets on the market. I WOULD go so far to say that they make the best bullets at their respective price points. I would also go so far as to say that if you're a competitor, you need to be shooting in the money before buying a better bullet than Hdy is going to make a statistically relevant improvement in your score. Whether its the ELD-VT, the standard ELD, or the old A-Max, Hornady has designed some of the highest BC bullets (per weight and caliber) on the market for the past 3 decades and the offer them at a price point that allows un-sponsored shooters to practice and train without going bankrupt. When I was consistently shooting at highmaster levels, it was worth the extra money to transition to a better bullet. Short of that, I was making better gains by sending lead down range in the wind than I was by spending more time at the reloading bench tweaking loads and trying better components.

Knowing that I can automatically start out with some kind of ELD or Vmax and have a projectile that's capable of shooting 1/2 moa if I do my part is a no brainer for me. I'm not going to fault someone for wanting to use the best of the best. Its their budget, not mine, and if they aren't shooting a lot it really isn't a big deal either way. That said, my favorite thing to do as a competitor is to show up at a match with plain jane equipment off the shelf and embarrass the guys shooting a $4,000 custom rifle or a $1,500 handgun. Not really possible in benchrest, but its usually pretty doable in the rest of the shooting disciplines.
 

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