Shout out to Mike Ezell

[gunsandgunsmithing]

how did you pattern tuner while it was in tune?

I'm confused by your question. I'm happy to try and help but we've got to be on the same page in terms of what tuners do. I must be misunderstanding your post because reading group size and shape is 99% of using a tuner...and yes, you have to know what completely in tune looks like. It's just as important, or maybe more so, than knowing what out of tune looks like.

Tell us what you're thinking of putting a tuner on and how does it shoot now?--Mike Ezell

 

[savageshooter86]

I'm confused by your question. I'm happy to try and help but we've got to be on the same page in terms of what tuners do. I must be misunderstanding your post because reading group size and shape is 99% of using a tuner...and yes, you have to know what completely in tune looks like. It's just as important, or maybe more so, than knowing what out of tune looks like.

Tell us what you're thinking of putting a tuner on and how does it shoot now?--Mike Ezell

original poster stated “Because I had patterned my tuner when I was in tune, I was also confident in how much and what direction to move it.“ Does that mean knowing what number on tuner opened up and which ones kept it in tune?

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

original poster stated “Because I had patterned my tuner when I was in tune, I was also confident in how much and what direction to move it.“ Does that mean knowing what number on tuner opened up and which ones kept it in tune?

Sorta..It's important to be able to recognize group size and shape and correspond that to tuner setting. IOW, you quickly learn how far it is on the tuner between completely in tune to completely out of tune...and what each mark looks like on the target.
There are lots of posts on here about it or the op may give his feedback. If you want more details, phone is best.

 

[Mulligan]

how did you pattern tuner while it was in tune?

I tuned the rifle as good as I could at the time.
I then shot groups one, two, three, and four marks out in each direction.
I took good notes and feel fairly confident that if I were to see those same patterns again, I could make a reasonable decision of how to adjust to tuner to bring the rifle back in tune.
CW

 

[linekin]

I'm testing a new light version of my tuners and different dampening. I have 2 different prototypes so far that I'm working with. One is 5 ounces, one is 3.5 ounces and my standard tuner is 6.5 ounces. They all tune the gun but they are all different as well. I'm doing this only to help where making weight, and occasionally, gun handling(balance) can be a problem with heavier tuners. So far, I've seen nothing to change my mind that to a large degree, the heavier tuner is best. But it doesn't matter if you can't make weight with it...and most people are still of the belief that they need every fraction of barrel length that they can muster. Sooo...I'll do what I can to make a lighter tuner work. No rest...gotta keep testing to keep the wolves at bay.

Mike, sent you a pm.

Keith

 

[JFrank]

I was at a 600 yard IBS match yesterday and my first two targets were not what I was expecting. I had spent time at the range the two weekends prior and had a load nailed down. I was going to the range early expecting the temps for the Jan match to be a bit cooler.
My first two targets were all vertical.

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After seeing my targets, I knew I was a bit out of tune. Because I had patterned my tuner when I was in tune, I was also confident in how much and what direction to move it.


I nudged the tuner one mark out and shot targets 3 & 4.

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Targets 3 & 4 were a lot better (above), maybe still not “in tune” but a heck of a lot closer to what I was seeing when getting ready for the match.

Without Mike’s help and mentoring, this would not have been possible.
Not only does he make a great tuner, but backs it up with great customer service.
Thanks Mike @gunsandgunsmithing
CW

Edit
Target 1 2.453”
Target 2 2.101”
Target 3 1.481”
Target 4 1.502”

Clay
That’s amazing to say the least.
Mike is the man..

 

[rardoin]

I'll add that I shoot that 'best load' at the same distance I developed it at (for me it is 300yds) on different days under different conditions and see what tuner adjustments (direction/graduations) are needed to bring the load back to the same grouping. Doing this under multiple conditions helped me develop the method I use to make adjustments when the gun is shooting too much vertical at distance. I shoot F-class so I don't have the ability to adjust the tuner with sighters as in short range BR. I must use data from previous experience to make an proper adjustment.

Robin