Shocked by Factory Match ammo

[Comrade Terry]

Ironically the first 3 cases were great, this case clearly was garbage and cost my friend 2 matches.

Your friend shot two matches with commercial ammo? What in blazes was he thinking (or not)?

 

[LongRangeLarry]

I mounted a Vortex Golden Eagle scope on it, using Vortex rings. I replaced the buttstock with a Magpul PRS gen 3, and the trigger with a Timney 2 stage. I'm using Sinclair's F-class style bipod. I've only zeroed it and shot two groups so far, but I'm very pleased with the sub-MOA groups. Not bad for the relatively "crooked" loaded ammo!

My Vortex Scope will be here on Monday according to the email i got this morning. I'll be ordering ammo today. Hopefully by next weekend i can go out and throw a few through the barrel and get it dialed in. fingers crossed that the weather gets better here in Pa.
How much was that trigger? a buddy of mine put one on his 6.5 creed. said he loves it.

 

[LongRangeLarry]

I've shot several in 6.5 Creed and they amaze me in how accurate they are even with factory ammo. Attaboy to Ruger.

that's good to hear. can't wait to shoot it.

 

[Delfuego]

Your friend shot two matches with commercial ammo? What in blazes was he thinking (or not)?

He is (was) only shooting factory ammo. He doesn't reload (about to start). We shoot Field/PRS type matches. This ammo was shooting so well initially I was shocked. I actually considered spinning up a barrel and stockpiling a few cases for shooting local fun matches when I am too busy or too lazy to load. Not gonna happen now...

 

[fatelvis]

Its not designed to be precision target ammo- anybody that needs better loads their own anyway

Then take the word MATCH off the box.....
It is a good concept, manufacturing a rifle\cartridge combo that theoretically one could compete with, even if one was not a Handloader. In my eyes Ruger held up their end, with a nice tight chamber, decent barrel/ receiver, and crisp trigger. Hornady needs to up their QC game.

 

[C.E.Smith043]

I mounted a Vortex Golden Eagle scope on it, using Vortex rings. I replaced the buttstock with a Magpul PRS gen 3, and the trigger with a Timney 2 stage. I'm using Sinclair's F-class style bipod. I've only zeroed it and shot two groups so far, but I'm very pleased with the sub-MOA groups. Not bad for the relatively "crooked" loaded ammo!

Meh...dont worry about it. After it gets shoved down that barrel at several thousands of psi it will straighten out

 

[Hammer47]

Only good thing about factory "match" ammo is that after it is fired the brass case remains and then it can be massaged and made into Match Ammo...............I must admit that there is some Lapua match ammo that is quite good. Imagine that.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I bought an m1a with 3/4 case of gold medal match with the match kings. It shot so good i never even attempted handloads til my last few boxes. I couldnt produce an equal load even though they had horrible seating depth variance, horrible runout and even worse powder charge weight consistency. I wondered how they even got a 4’ group at 100. I got the powder charge info from federal and it was right in the middle but i just couldnt reproduce and when i bought 2 more boxes of it it shot like it weighed- like blasting ammo. Just never know whats gonna be good

 

[Hammer47]

I bought an m1a with 3/4 case of gold medal match with the match kings. It shot so good i never even attempted handloads til my last few boxes. I couldnt produce an equal load even though they had horrible seating depth variance, horrible runout and even worse powder charge weight consistency. I wondered how they even got a 4’ group at 100. I got the powder charge info from federal and it was right in the middle but i just couldnt reproduce and when i bought 2 more boxes of it it shot like it weighed- like blasting ammo. Just never know whats gonna be good

Sure I know what's gonna be good..... whatever rolls off my reloading bench.....just like I know where to find great food, just follow mama to the kitchen.

 

[suasponte]

Most of that Hornady ammo is being loaded for Police Swat applications. They are not shooting past 200yds most of the time. 100yd and in is more likely. 100fps ES does not mean anything to them. If you want long range ammo, small groups, and ES under 10fps you gotta load it yourself.
Terry

 

[fguffey]

Shocked? A shooter at a fifing range called wanting to know what was wrong with R.P ammo; I do not do well with guessing games so I told him the phone number for R.P was on the box, I suggested he call R.P. He then informed me a shooter purchased a new rifle with two boxes of R-P 30/06 ammo, Out of the first box 5 failed to fire, the shooter then allowed ever shooter on the range to try busting the primers; no luck. The primers were hit 5 times+ and the 15 that did fire were added to the 5 that failed to fire, sacked up and brought to me.

I checked the 15 fired cases for case length from the shoulder to the case head; I compared the length of the failed to fire with the length of the fired cases; the difference in length was .001" from the shoulder to the case head meaning? The case did not take off and outrun the firing pin to the front of the chamber. I pulled the 5 failed to fire rounds apart and measured the components , I did not have an emotion but I will say there was not a grain of difference between the weight of the components nor was there .001" difference in the dimensions between the components.

I then removed the primers, nothing loose or cracked so I reinstalled the primers back into the cases they were removed from and then; I chambered the cases in one of my M1917s one by one and busted the primers with my killer firing pin.

They threw the ammo boxes away, there was no phone number for the proud owner of the new rifle; still, I was not shocked. I was proud of the 20 cases I was given for my effort.

F. Guffey

 

[ranger3]

I use Hornady match ammo in my 6.5 Creed, shoots in the .3''s. Tried one box of 130 gr Hornady Match in my 260, it shot a ragged hole at 100yds, haven't tried it further yet. No complaints here. I'm not going to measure them.

 

[Milo 2.0]

Then take the word MATCH off the box.....
It is a good concept, manufacturing a rifle\cartridge combo that theoretically one could compete with, even if one was not a Handloader. In my eyes Ruger held up their end, with a nice tight chamber, decent barrel/ receiver, and crisp trigger. Hornady needs to up their QC game.

Not sure if you've shot this ammo yet, but if you chrono and build a profile in an app, or Kestel, at 600 you'll see it start dipping low, hang on, it only gets worse.
Their 6.5 creed ammo same story.
Hope your chamber is throated for the 108 too, takes a ton of freebore, I shot a box of this garbage and by rd 18 number I could no longer chamber a rd, carbon ring from hell.