Shipping a rifle action to gunsmith
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madmixerman
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I have done it. I believe if going to a gunsmith you don't need an ffl to send.
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I'm about to do the same (just bare action). Do I have to declare it as a firearm?
I believe one must declare a firearm using USPS.
It is not required that the shipper be/ use a FFL.
Nor does the gunsmith have to ship it back to you through a FFL. as no change of ownership takes place
In the case of ownership crossing a state line, FFL must receive it and transfer to new owner.
It is not required that the shipper be/ use a FFL.
Nor does the gunsmith have to ship it back to you through a FFL. as no change of ownership takes place
In the case of ownership crossing a state line, FFL must receive it and transfer to new owner.
I shipped an action today via USPS. You can certainly use a flat rate box.
I told the lady it is a rifle action, the part with the serial number. I showed her that it's going to an FFL and that a copy of my drivers license is in the box. She got some help as this was her first time dealing with such a case. I tried to reassure her that everything was fine as she seemed a bit nervous.
I'm likely wrong, but if it's the portion of the rifle that totes the serial number, it is considered a firearm/rifle/gun, therefore I always let them know what's in there.
I told the lady it is a rifle action, the part with the serial number. I showed her that it's going to an FFL and that a copy of my drivers license is in the box. She got some help as this was her first time dealing with such a case. I tried to reassure her that everything was fine as she seemed a bit nervous.
I'm likely wrong, but if it's the portion of the rifle that totes the serial number, it is considered a firearm/rifle/gun, therefore I always let them know what's in there.
Not sure what constitutes an average person, but long guns can be mailed (USPS) by a non FFL to a FFL, manufacturer, or gunsmith.
alf
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Baloney......you don't have to declare what's in the package either.
USPS can only ask you the question “Is there anything inside the package that is liquid, fragile, perishable, and potentially hazardous, such as lithium battery or perfume?”
Based on this I used a flat rate box to mail my action to my smith.
www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service
"May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31]"
Last Reviewed September 23, 2016
www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service
"May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31]"
Last Reviewed September 23, 2016
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ttfreestyle
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shortgrass
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ATF requires gunsmiths to have an FFL
shortgrass
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The only out of state, non-FFL that can receive a firearm is the owner, sending it to him/ herself.
With regards to firearms, and the law, possession IS ownership. A change in possession is a technically a transfer.
One of the many reasons to be wary of 'common sense' laws requiring background checks for private transfers.
shortgrass
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What you don't know or think you know can hurt you. Go to ATFs' web site and investigate "gunsmiths". One more thing to consider,,,, no FFL, no insurance, not a 'above the board' firearms business. As for NFA items, a NFA item is a short barreled rifle/shotgun, a fully automatic weapon, or a silencer (probably some other items, too), not a bolt action rifle receiver. A NFA item can be transferred to a licensed gunsmith for repair/refinishing by using ATF Form 5 and getting ATFE approval. These threads are always SO full of mis-information it borders on being ridiculous. It's no wonder firearms law is so misunderstood. GO TO ATFEs' WEB SITE AND GET IT STRAIGHT FROM THEM, or,, PICK UP THE PHONE AND MAKE A PHONE CALL (to atfe)! Every agent/investigator/inspector can answer basic shipping and licensing questions (and actually give the same answers to those 'basic' questions).
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shortgrass
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TheOtherZilla
Pull my finger
If you are sending a firearm or parts out for repair yes.. No FFL needed.. If the PO suspects it is firearm related they will have you answer a short questionaire
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