Sending postal money orders
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Yes if this does go bad please let us know and who it was. Good luck!
Mudcat
Gold $$ Contributor
Yup, Erud is right on the money....pun sorta intended. Its seller's mistake (assuming its legit and not a scam), so seller should send the item, plus the fee to get the MO cancelled and refunded and hope you are just as nice of a guy and you take care of that and send his money, which, is what I would do, being on either side. Poop happens, but the one that causes the poop to happen has to step up too, first, and with the most effort, but when they do, I sure dont have a problem helping out as I would appreciate the same if the shoe was on my foot, or vice versa.
I'm a new guy here while you are a long standing member and to me this smells as fishy as Grand Isle, LA. I've used po mo for decades and never heard of someone doing this and expecting the buyer to send additional money. You may have been robbed. Some people these days make me question the human race. Good luck.
I'm curious why so many people insist on a PO money order or a cashiers check from a bank. I accept personal checks, wait for the check to clear and then send the item. I let the buyer know the item won't ship until I have the funds, and typically it only takes a few days for a personal check to clear these days.
There is always the risk I will be out a few bucks if a rubber check bounces, but I figure that is the cost of doing business in a market like this.
There is always the risk I will be out a few bucks if a rubber check bounces, but I figure that is the cost of doing business in a market like this.
Well, guess I can add my comments like everyone else, only with a bit of accuracy. Only the purchaser of a MO can file a lost, stolen or destroyed claim, NOT a recipient! If I didn't need/have proof I bought something I could walk into a PO, bank or whomever sold MO's and demand a refund for a hundred money orders I didn't buy last week but swear they were mailed to me and I shredded them. Only the purchaser has a copy/receipt/proof of a purchase! Whomever you sent the original 'negotiable' item to has no proof if he lost, destroyed it or even exists. Purchaser has to make claim for a refund/replacement, no 'internet' guessing or uneducated exaggerated opinions on that!!!
The PO will give you a claim form to fill out with MO # etc. Will cost as stated about 6 bucks. They will issue a stop payment on it and that will be for 30 days and another 30 for refund if not cashed/located etc. Ones I have gotten back only took about a week after the initial 30 days but they give themselves plenty of room. PIA to have to wait but......Bought a T-10 from a gent and his wife 'washed the $200 PMO. Had no reason to believe he was 'scamming' me. Withheld the cost to file with PO and made him wait the 30 days but knowing I have made mistakes and would have appreciated the help I didn't scream thief, liar, scammer or whatever. Just a dumb mistake, happens every day, and I doubt everyone stating the ol man is a crook, thief or scammer would appreciate same treatment/accusations if it were them!
As always, apologize in advance for any spelling, grammer errors. Either it was my stroke or I am just old, stupid and perhaps a scammer. Not directed at anyone in particular, just find little trust and a lot of keyboard compassion here. Wait until you get older and the younger crowd treat you with indifference and mistrust. If you can't/don't trust anyone on the net then don't do business with it!!!
However, guess I am just nieve ignorant and too trusting in my 'golden' years. Ah hell, fire up the tar pot and pluck a couple of chickens, lets fix that senile old bastard!!!!!
Respectfully,
Dennis
The PO will give you a claim form to fill out with MO # etc. Will cost as stated about 6 bucks. They will issue a stop payment on it and that will be for 30 days and another 30 for refund if not cashed/located etc. Ones I have gotten back only took about a week after the initial 30 days but they give themselves plenty of room. PIA to have to wait but......Bought a T-10 from a gent and his wife 'washed the $200 PMO. Had no reason to believe he was 'scamming' me. Withheld the cost to file with PO and made him wait the 30 days but knowing I have made mistakes and would have appreciated the help I didn't scream thief, liar, scammer or whatever. Just a dumb mistake, happens every day, and I doubt everyone stating the ol man is a crook, thief or scammer would appreciate same treatment/accusations if it were them!
As always, apologize in advance for any spelling, grammer errors. Either it was my stroke or I am just old, stupid and perhaps a scammer. Not directed at anyone in particular, just find little trust and a lot of keyboard compassion here. Wait until you get older and the younger crowd treat you with indifference and mistrust. If you can't/don't trust anyone on the net then don't do business with it!!!
However, guess I am just nieve ignorant and too trusting in my 'golden' years. Ah hell, fire up the tar pot and pluck a couple of chickens, lets fix that senile old bastard!!!!!
Respectfully,
Dennis
Well, there's the way things ought to be...{"it's his problem, he should send the item immediately," yadda yadda, yadda...} and the way things are...{not a chance flyin' thru the gates of he77...}
Right or wrong, it is what it is. As above, ONLY the purchaser can get something done with a U.S. Postal money order, and this takes some time. He cannot send you the item and go take care of "his problem" it's your problem until he cashes the PMO. Also, as above, it is a federal crime to scam money both across state lines {???} and by way of the U.S. Postal Service. So, if he cashed it and the postmaster general inspector finds out then he's in some trouble. Doesn't much help you, but at this point everything is on hold for you until the PMO issue is resolved and you send him another one. I am not saying do that, I am not saying this still isn't a scam...it sure has the proper ingredients. If in fact he lost it then you can get reimbursed in time. Worse that can happen for you is you lose the item because he got tired of waiting/needed the money and sold it to someone else. Good luck.
Right or wrong, it is what it is. As above, ONLY the purchaser can get something done with a U.S. Postal money order, and this takes some time. He cannot send you the item and go take care of "his problem" it's your problem until he cashes the PMO. Also, as above, it is a federal crime to scam money both across state lines {???} and by way of the U.S. Postal Service. So, if he cashed it and the postmaster general inspector finds out then he's in some trouble. Doesn't much help you, but at this point everything is on hold for you until the PMO issue is resolved and you send him another one. I am not saying do that, I am not saying this still isn't a scam...it sure has the proper ingredients. If in fact he lost it then you can get reimbursed in time. Worse that can happen for you is you lose the item because he got tired of waiting/needed the money and sold it to someone else. Good luck.
He wants me to send a check right now but when I get the money in 2 months I will send him the balance minus any and all fees. I don't think he is scamming at all but he should be willing to wait till I get the refund to receive the replacement money order or check. If I send him a check now and the post office says no deal then I paid twice which I will not do.
Kyle Schultz
Gold $$ Contributor
Walk away. File your claim with the USPO and write off the $5.95. I still can't believe someone would sell their integrity for $87.
You say you don't want to take advantage of the "OLD FELLOW", how do you know he's old? It could very well be a scam, and he could very well be telling the truth! I understand how you feel but in business, it's business, act accordingly.
I believe "Timeout" ( and others) had the logical answer that would be as fair as one can be. He should send you the goods and pay for the replacement money order and any associated fees.
If he screams at doing this, or pushes for a "check", then I would think it's a scam, because he wouldn't have/show any respect for your position on the matter!
I believe "Timeout" ( and others) had the logical answer that would be as fair as one can be. He should send you the goods and pay for the replacement money order and any associated fees.
If he screams at doing this, or pushes for a "check", then I would think it's a scam, because he wouldn't have/show any respect for your position on the matter!
DennisH
Life Time NRA member
i know many won't like this, but I always suggest PayPal first for payment on an item, second is a credit card, third is an electronic check from the bank.
All three choices above are easy to deal with especially in the case Jon is experiencing. And their nowhere near as expensive as the Postal System when tracing it down and putting a stop payment on the money order. Plus consider the wait time. PayPal and the credit card companies protect both the seller and buyer if their is a problem. With PayPal, make sure you send the money for a item being purchased. If you send it as a gift, you have no recourse.
Plus my bank has informed me that money orders are being counterfeited now and they treat them just like a regular check. I found this out when I sold a 4 wheeler and took a bank money order from a person out of town. I was on pins and needles for 10 days. Money orders are also being stolen and cashed and there's hardly no way to recoup your money.
Before anyone says PayPal is anti-gun, that's not the case. They don't won't to be held liable for any lawsuits that may arise from the purchase. Many companies are taking the same position. Some credit card companies are thinking about taking the same position. I know most of you are already aware of this.
Just a month ago, I had a customer who stated they "lost" my electronic check I sent them. NO problem, I called the bank, after proving the electronic check didn't clear, they put a stop payment on it (they charged a stop payment fee), and I reissued another electronic check less the fees I uncured. Very easily handled with minimum cost.
I don't have any suggestions for Jon, sounds like all has been covered.
Just 3 days ago I bought an item and paid for it using PayPal. This was at 8pm Monday night. Everything was instant and the item was shipped the next morning 2 day Priority Mail. I received the item yesterday. It doesn't get any quicker than this, and there was no 10 day wait time.
FWIW I thought I would make the above statement. I take all forms of payments with the Postal Money Orders being the last choice.
And Jon, I am just making a point as many have fallen in the same position as you have. I hope the above will help someone in the future.
Dennis
PS: Scams are popular these days. Some are very good at it.
All three choices above are easy to deal with especially in the case Jon is experiencing. And their nowhere near as expensive as the Postal System when tracing it down and putting a stop payment on the money order. Plus consider the wait time. PayPal and the credit card companies protect both the seller and buyer if their is a problem. With PayPal, make sure you send the money for a item being purchased. If you send it as a gift, you have no recourse.
Plus my bank has informed me that money orders are being counterfeited now and they treat them just like a regular check. I found this out when I sold a 4 wheeler and took a bank money order from a person out of town. I was on pins and needles for 10 days. Money orders are also being stolen and cashed and there's hardly no way to recoup your money.
Before anyone says PayPal is anti-gun, that's not the case. They don't won't to be held liable for any lawsuits that may arise from the purchase. Many companies are taking the same position. Some credit card companies are thinking about taking the same position. I know most of you are already aware of this.
Just a month ago, I had a customer who stated they "lost" my electronic check I sent them. NO problem, I called the bank, after proving the electronic check didn't clear, they put a stop payment on it (they charged a stop payment fee), and I reissued another electronic check less the fees I uncured. Very easily handled with minimum cost.
I don't have any suggestions for Jon, sounds like all has been covered.
Just 3 days ago I bought an item and paid for it using PayPal. This was at 8pm Monday night. Everything was instant and the item was shipped the next morning 2 day Priority Mail. I received the item yesterday. It doesn't get any quicker than this, and there was no 10 day wait time.
FWIW I thought I would make the above statement. I take all forms of payments with the Postal Money Orders being the last choice.
And Jon, I am just making a point as many have fallen in the same position as you have. I hope the above will help someone in the future.
Dennis
PS: Scams are popular these days. Some are very good at it.
Right now, as it stands you will either get the money back from the post office, or he is scamming and you will still get it back but it will take a lot longer. Either way, you stand to receive your money back...just a matter of time. If you send him any more money you may not see it or the item. If he cannot wait then tell him to have a nice life. The fact that he is demanding more money is not looking good on his part. DO NOT SEND ANY MORE MONEY.
Jon....stop the hemorrhaging. Send NOTHING! File the claim with the PO and wait for your money. You stand a chance of paying TWICE and receiving nothing.
I have bought and sold a few items on this site. All were trouble free. I prefer to be paid by check or pay by check. I expect nothing to ship or be shipped until that check clears to everyone's satisfaction.
I have bought and sold a few items on this site. All were trouble free. I prefer to be paid by check or pay by check. I expect nothing to ship or be shipped until that check clears to everyone's satisfaction.
nmkid
Gold $$ Contributor
I'm with you on this. Also, It takes a while but, the P.O. will pay. Pay Pal is a great option unless you sell a lot of things and always claim it as money to family member or gift. They do keep track...Don't ask how I know. LOL.
I'm with SDWhirlwind. Over the last 10 years I've had one, ONE, USPS MO claim due to it being lost in their mail system. I followed my postmasters directions to file a claim and was refunded my money. Not unpleasant but a little inconvenient.
JON- I filed a claim with USPS in March for $640.00. Dirtbag in Phoenix scammed me for a rifle he never had and he sent money went to Nigeria . I filed a claim with USPS in March and haven't heard a thing yet.Still hoping for some cash bag one day.Local Phoenix police have not said anything positive about getting my money back.You didn't say this guy was from this website in your original post. Seems like he screwed up and should send your purchase to you .
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Id go file a claim happily after he sends you the item. Until then who knows if youre gonna get the item. He lost the money, you did your part he should be the one having to wait. Id go file the claim and lose $6 as opposed to not getting either one. If it is a scam youll know as soon as you file the claim. I definitely wouldnt mind going thru the steps to replace his money even losing the $6 if he realizes its his mistake and sends the item.
M-61 I am not hemorrhaging over anything. I am simply getting advice and it was no one on this site.
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