Scope Check
- Thread starter sdean
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What would be most helpful is an opthamologists report on the vision quality of the user.
EVERYTHING that relates to sight picture, involving a telescopic sight is Objective. Only YOUR Vision matters. Buy "the best scope" going according to "tests" and it's only as good as your eyes...
Loved the recent remarks cited by members here, how NF rep said their "scope tubes are all made on state of the art CNC machinery".... Like duh... only thing "state of the art" about CNC is the controller and software and machining a 30/36mm tube to ID perfection is not rocket science.... Buzzword Bat Scatt.... Like the NF rep who said NF has a "scope tester"... LOL Forever! A "scope tester" Is the NF customer a simpleton? Must be if the NF rep don't know how they "test" or what "tests" they run???
How's your vision? Best scope in the world won't improve it, but at least it won't diminish your ability.
The only "test" or "test eqpt" that matters is your eyesight and your possessing enough inteligence to prove your chosen gear works satisfactorily for you...
If you think you have to spend over $2000 to get superb optical performance, you are just wrong.
BoydAllen
Gold $$ Contributor
I think that you may have missed the point. You can have superb optics and the scope can be a disaster in terms of holding point of impact. I see a lot of this, people discussing scopes based on image quality. Don't get me wrong. I like great optics as much as anyone, perhaps more, since the last time that I was checked I was at about 20-15 corrected, but for benchrest work I would a lot rather have middle of the pack image quality in a scope that was rock solid than the best image quality in the world in a scope that moved from time to time. Most folks do not have a requirement for a scope that meets competition benchrest standards, but some do. The whole reason that March scopes came into being was to solve this particular problem, and the use of Hood type scope testers allows shooters to identify problems that they would not be able to pin down without them.
OH MAN...... what did I miss ???? Sounds like a big old pissing contest
What exatly " optical performance" is is sketchy at best. Good glass is more expensive than less good glass, flurite or ED glass ain't cheap.
That said, lots of folks are missing the distinction between premium scopes and their lesser brethern.....that is the most important thing you pay for.......the absolute ability to hold POI over time.
That said, lots of folks are missing the distinction between premium scopes and their lesser brethern.....that is the most important thing you pay for.......the absolute ability to hold POI over time.
shoot4fun
Gold $$ Contributor
It is not as apparent (you don't see it when you look thru the glass) but scopes with same quality glass are not all created equal. Mechanical quality is just as, if not more, important.
Jay Christopherson
Not An Admin
Huh? You can test whatever you want and post whatever you want to about your testing. No tinfoil hats required.
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Uh......that is exactly what I said above.
ttfreestyle
Silver $$ Contributor
I was following closely also as I am in the market for another scope and considered the info informative.
My bad. I was wrong with my original title. I still think it would have been easier to give the reason. Case closed.
Please delete this one too.
Alex Wheeler
Site $$ Sponsor
I asked it to be pulled. It was heading the wrong way and was going to end bad. The whole point of that post was not to try and bash a brand or model. The point is to get YOU testing scopes too. Its something I think a lot of us over look. I did. Hopefully it opened some eyes and you shoot better because of it. Plus, one guy with a scope tester is not going to force manufactures into making better stuff, but 500 guys with scope testers may 
I'll do more testing in the future and will post it. But my testing only proves if the scopes in my hands hold poi. It does not prove if yours do. There looks like there will be a couple guys bringing back the scope testers. I consider it an absolute necessity at this point. No, I will not profit in any way from scope tester sales FYI.
Its so easy to do all you need is 100 yards and a mirage free day.
I'll do more testing in the future and will post it. But my testing only proves if the scopes in my hands hold poi. It does not prove if yours do. There looks like there will be a couple guys bringing back the scope testers. I consider it an absolute necessity at this point. No, I will not profit in any way from scope tester sales FYI.
Its so easy to do all you need is 100 yards and a mirage free day.
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Jay Christopherson
Not An Admin
It would have been easier, but again with the "reasons". Beyond political threads, personal attacks, and un-substantiated bashing of manufacturers/products (which that post was none of), we really don't put any limits on what people post.
Alex Wheeler
Site $$ Sponsor
Ok, one more thing for you guys.... I left it out before to simplify things. If I rotated the scope that seemed to fail the worst the failure pattern rotated with the scope. Meaning the direction of failure remains consistent relative to the scope... Which does validate the test.
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Thanks for testing and results for me and my group you got us talking... had the results shown a one off i would not have had the level of discussions i had. However the testing showed an anomaly of 100% in 4 samples, that was enough as two of our members have the scope in question a third a Sightron. i am sitting here like a Cheshire cat as i have a March 8x80 and a 12x42 br. i have previously run a box and 30moa vertical test.
Please continue to provide feed back.
Trevor
Alex Wheeler
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I think common use of bore scopes may not be the best thing lol. I will not look in my personal barrels with one.
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