Savage Info

[Carolina Man]

I am new to Savage Rifles and I need some info on them. I have a chance to buy form an estate a Savage Mod. 12 in 22-250, less than a 100 rds fired. Appears to be BVSS with an internal box mag. Has Accutrigger, 3 screws in a laminated stock.

Can someone tell me the pros & cons of these rifles compared say to a Rem. 700. I want to have this rifle rebarreled to a 6mmSLR, Is it worth fooling with.

Thanks
George

 

[Shortround]

George, go for it.

I have always been a big Remington 700 fan and still like them. I'm new to the Savage center fire arena and I like the flexibility the barrel nut system offers. Both brands are very good.

I have a 22-250 I built up some 35+ years ago. It's on a 1903A3 action, Hoffman 26" barrel, Fajen stock, Timney trigger, and an El Paso built Weaver K-10. Absolutely no idea how many rounds have been down the tube, but it still shoots an inch or less. It has been a heck of a whitetail killer.

If you are looking at a different caliber, the Savage is easy to work with. Just a barrel swap. depends on what you want to do. Lots to choose from $$ to $$$$.

Savageshooters is also a good place for info.

Gotta git. Packing up for Alaska for a couple weeks. Gotta go fix the Army.


Shortround out

 

[pacificman]

I think they are great rifles...especially if you re-barrel. I have both Rem 700's and Savage model 12's. One model 12 I have in .223 is shooting in the .3 range for groups and the other is a solid .4 shooter. I think even better with a custom barrel. If you keep the factory stock you will want to glass bed it for sure. I don't shoot in any BR matches but am very happy with the accuracy I get with these rifles. Semper Fi

 

[jonbearman]

Find out what they want for it as sometimes these types of sales is debated on the fact it was dads gun.I would say 500.00 or so would be a decent buy if it is in really like new shape.As for the barrel,try shooting it as is and if it wont shoot very well,buy a new barrel,headspace gage(go gage at least) ,barrel nut wrench and receiver wrench.Try northlandshootersupply.com and Jim will get you headed in the right direction 1-763-682-4296. His prices are very reasonable and he will tell you all you need to know.Go to you tube and look up how to rebarrel a savage.There are lots of videos.Once you do it,it will be simple the next time.I love the remmys due to the ability to install a good trigger but some of the aftermarket savage triggers are pretty good like the sav-2 and the sss competition trigger.

 

[thekriebles]

George,

A belated thank you for your service to our country! Jon has directed you very well above. The laminated factory stock is actually fairly decent. Assuming you're not buying a new stock for either the Rem. 700 or Savage model 12, then it will save you some money. But, as stated above, have it professionally bedded. I have both actions and prefer the Savage for its flexibility to change bolt heads to shoot either the cartridges you mentioned or to switch to the 222/223 Rem. family of cartridges. I'm not aware of a financially reasonable way to do so with a Rem 700. As stated above, there are more quality after-market component choices for Rem. 700s than Savage. But, there are very good ones for the Savage. I'm assuming your model 12 is a RB/RP? I purchased mine with the left port. This is another personal preference for me using the Savage.

 

[1066]

I have a couple of Savage F-12's. One's 6.5x284 and the other is a 6br I built myself out of "off the peg" bits. It has a Shilen select match 1in8 barrel, Rifle Basix Sav-2 trigger, Ken Farrell 20moa rail with a Sightron S111 8-32x56 scope.

They both shoot very well. Five shot groups, with the 6br, in the .2moa range are quite common with the occasional group squeezing into the .1's

 

[GSPV]

There are "Rem Nut" barrels available for the M700. Also, a gunsmith can convert the bolt to be swappable like a Savage. Just not very well known.

 

[Erik Cortina]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

If you can buy it cheap, to for it, but don't expect it to be tight nor smooth.

 

[5spd]

If you can get it for a decent price snag it you will be happy you did.
Savage has lots of aftermarket support, you can do it all your self w/out a gun smith to do barrel swaps, trigger, stocks etc.
As on any gun the triggers can be rough or nice, the accus are nice IMO. I own 9 Savages.
You will find after owning one, you will get another sooner or later.

 

[jonbearman]

Eric is right but you can make the trigger good enough for imformal or club shoots.The savage has a lot of aftermarket parts to tighten them up enough that they will shoot.You cannot compare a savage to a custom as it is apples to oranges and the original poster didn't ask about what will be dicussed as this thread gets longer.I would buy it if the price is right and just enjoy it,then if you want to upgrade do it if it is feasible financially.

 

[Warren Dean]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

??? ??? Puhleeeeze!!!!

Same old song and dance..... ;D

 

[Syncrowave]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

I don't know which Accutrigger the rifle you're talking about has, but the "Target" version of the Accutrigger is sweet.

No creep, adjustable down to around 6 ounces, breaks like glass.

Works for me.

 

[Carolina Man]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

If you can buy it cheap, to for it, but don't expect it to be tight nor smooth.
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Okay Eric, what is the problem with the trigger? This rifle has the AccuTrigger. I understand it is adjustable. Are any after market triggers available. I am used to the Jewel triggers in my bench guns. And the older Remington could be adjusted pretty light

I can get the rifle for about $700.00



George

 

[M-61]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

I don't know which Accutrigger the rifle you're talking about has, but the "Target" version of the Accutrigger is sweet.

No creep, adjustable down to around 6 ounces, breaks like glass.


Works for me.

+1....I have 4 and find them flawless

 

[Carolina Man]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

I don't know which Accutrigger the rifle you're talking about has, but the "Target" version of the Accutrigger is sweet.

No creep, adjustable down to around 6 ounces, breaks like glass.

Works for me.

How do I tell the difference? Never owned a Savage rifle before. They are just plain UGLY. hehehe

George

 

[Erik Cortina]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

I don't know which Accutrigger the rifle you're talking about has, but the "Target" version of the Accutrigger is sweet.

No creep, adjustable down to around 6 ounces, breaks like glass.

Works for me.

They break for sure!

 

[Erik Cortina]

They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

If you can buy it cheap, to for it, but don't expect it to be tight nor smooth.

Okay Erik, what is the problem with the trigger? This rifle has the AccuTrigger. I understand it is adjustable. Are any after market triggers available. I am used to the Jewel triggers in my bench guns. And the older Remington could be adjusted pretty light

I can get the rifle for about $700.00



George

The triggers are nothing like a Jewell. The triggers are rough, and even though they can be adjusted, they will decock easily on the light settings. If you get the rifle, keep it as is, if you adjust trigger, do not go under one pound and you should be ok. They make aftermarket triggers for them, but they are just as bad about decocking, except the gun actually fires with aftermarket triggers due to the absence of the trigger blade safety.

 

[Nomad47]

I owned that exact same rifle - Savage 12 BVSS in 22-250. It was without a doubt the MOST accurate out-of-the-box factory rifle I ever owned. After I shot out the factory barrel, it got Criterion 6XC and 243AI barrels. Just as accurate.
I'm no mechanic or machinist, but I was able to get the trigger down to 3 ounces (the blade had to be removed).

 

[Erik Cortina]

I can get the rifle for about $700.00

For $700.00 I would let it go.

If you buy it and try to sell it, I think you will have a hard time getting your money back. If you keep it, you have to spend some money tooling up for barrel changes and such if you decide to switch barrels on it. If you are not planning on changing barrels, then it's a coin toss whether it will shoot or not.

If you keep it, don't fall for all the bolt lift kits, action blueprinting, or non of that crap. If you plan on doing any of that, just buy a Kelbly Atlas action for about $800.00 and you will be way ahead of the game.

 

[Nomad47]

It's a steal at $700. ;D