Savage Actions

[MGYSGT]

Is there any difference between the Model 10/11/12 Savage action?

Tom

 

[michaelnel]

Yes!

 

[rwk]

What is the difference.

 

[michaelnel]

10s are short action, like .223 and .308
110s are long action, like .270 and 300 Win Mag
Some 12s are target actions, stainless steel, 3 action screws (at least on the 12 Benchrest, 12 F/TR and 12 F class+
Some 12s are also varmint actions.

There may be other differences, but those are the biggies. Consistency is not Savage Arms' strong suit.

 

[MGYSGT]

They are all short actions (10/11/12). I was looking for differences in the thickness of the receiver, or things that matter when building a rifle. If they are all pretty much the same, then why the different model numbers. There must be some difference in them, I just don't know what it could be.

 

[michaelnel]

You might ask on the savageshooters.com forum. Lots of Savage experts there.

 

[jdh47]

Much depends on when it was made for the mod.12 at least. The earlier standard ones were stagger feed and the hole spacing is 4.28" or so [two screw] The later standard actions were changed to center feed and the hole spacing is 4'4" for the two screws. Then there is the mod.12 target action and it is a three screw.

I cannot speak for the mod. 10 and 11's.

 

[Concha]

You will also find that the WSM actions have the large diameter barrel threads. The flat back 4.27 actions in WSM have a slot in the bottom for the ejector that is not present on the non WSM models. The newer bottom release actions have an additional slot in the bottom of the receiver to accommodate the mechanism that aids in bolt removal. The top release action has a flat milled into the rear side of the receiver that is omitted on the bottom release version. There are some other minor differences with trigger seers etc... but that is an answer to a diferent question. As For savage shooters the best contributors on that sight are on this forum as well....without all of the kindergarten cop moderation.

 

[rjtfroggy]

The biggest difference is the finish 10 Blued(usually) 11 matte( flat black) 12 stainless(but not always), other than that they are the same. For the newer model 11 they are using more and more plastic parts like the Axis.

 

[Pinsnscrews]

They are all short actions (10/11/12). I was looking for differences in the thickness of the receiver, or things that matter when building a rifle. If they are all pretty much the same, then why the different model numbers. There must be some difference in them, I just don't know what it could be.

Not correct. The Action length is based on cartridge and not whether it is a 10/11 or 12, though the 12 can use the Target action and the others will not. Also, from 88-97 ALL savage actions were Long actions, with short action cartridges using a bottom feed port that was shortened for the cartridge and shortened towars the front of the action. There are other differences as well depending on whether it is a DBM action, center feed or stagger feed.

Your best bet is to look the action up on savageshooters.com. You will want to be a paid member as the articles and classifieds become available.

I wish there was an easy way, but there isn't. Just like not all actions are small shank, not all magnums are large shank. Some 300 win mags are small shank for example.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Are any of the NEW .300 WM actions small shank?

 

[LHSmith]

I never realized how convoluted Savage's model nomenclature was. And to find out what someone truly has in case they want to swap parts, you have to be a paying member to a forum that is independent of Savage Arms? Like Elaine said in the Seinfeld "shrinkage" episode: "I don't know how do you guy's walk around with those things."

 

[hothead]

Mr. smith, get with the program. Savage are ahead of there time. I think for the most part they are the most accurate factory rifle. They are not afraid to put out factory match rifles. They might not win the SS or Camp Perry, BUT Team Savage
shooting FACTORY rifles, do tear it up in F t/r . Team green don't use Remington barrels on there HP and Lr rifles. Because they don't shoot.
think about it, your grandson's new 7mm-08 Savage might just out shoot that HV
Panda I sold you.
You spend too much time watching Seinfeld when you should be studying up on Savage Arms.
hh

 

[LHSmith]

think about it, your grandson's new 7mm-08 Savage might just out shoot that HV
Panda I sold you.

Maybe, but it's a Savage Edge and I've loaded for and shot Mr. Shupp's .223 in that model ......and it's pretty much a certified POS.
I did own a model 99 in .243 and a model 340 in a Hornet years ago, shot ok, but they left me wanting....so they went.

 

[hothead]

L.H. Smith, we'll take care of that. I wouldn't let you down. see you Monday.
hh

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Mr. smith, get with the program. Savage are ahead of there time. I think for the most part they are the most accurate factory rifle. They are not afraid to put out factory match rifles. They might not win the SS or Camp Perry, BUT Team Savage
shooting FACTORY rifles, do tear it up in F t/r . Team green don't use Remington barrels on there HP and Lr rifles. Because they don't shoot.
think about it, your grandson's new 7mm-08 Savage might just out shoot that HV
Panda I sold you.
You spend too much time watching Seinfeld when you should be studying up on Savage Arms.
hh

They definitely are ahead of their time in finding a way to mass produce an action quickly and inexpensively while incorporating designs that allow for larger manufacturing tolerances. Aside from that they are a pos, I just got done with a 110 build and could write a short book on what is wrong with their design. 8)

 

[Concha]

Not correct. The Action length is based on cartridge and not whether it is a 10/11 or 12,

I have never seen a long action with two digit model number. Ever!