Ruger buys Anderson Manufacturing and closed it

[tommeboy]

GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! Now Rugers quality will be worse than it is now. Anderson was not a good company for quality. Bear Creek has better products than they did. And BCA is about as low of quality as you can get.

 

[TommyD11730]

Bill Ruger was not a friend to the 2A. I can't understand the love for this company.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! Now Rugers quality will be worse than it is now. Anderson was not a good company for quality. Bear Creek has better products than they did. And BCA is about as low of quality as you can get.

Why would it degrade the quality when they jus bought the facility to expand?

 

[jds holler]

So this means that my little "Anderson" stamped carbine will now be collectable -- right??!! jd

 

[Varminterror]

So this means that my little "Anderson" stamped carbine will now be collectable -- right??!! jd

Sure. Poverty Pony lowers will skyrocket to twice their original retail price and are now worth $40.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

So this means that my little "Anderson" stamped carbine will now be collectable -- right??!! jd

It really means you probably got in on the last of the good deals.

 

[jds holler]

I'll count myself happy to have my Anderson "poverty pony", and don't think I'd have been any happier if I'd spent a thousand bucks instead of the measly 400 that this one cost me. I think I've been blessed with the ironic balance of being an optimist with low expectations.

I too am happy that the Anderson facility and family still has work to do. They prolly fit in with the the Ruger "gun for the common man" thing.
jd

 

[urbanrifleman]

Same story.

 

[Dgd6mm]

I think I'll buy one of those Anderson's.

 

[jds holler]

I think I'll buy one of those Anderson's.

I think this is the one I got, back when they were like 389.95. Three of my buddies have since got them, so I guess I hang out with a bunch of cheapskates.

It looks like Buds is showing more "Out of Stock" Anderson stuff, so if ya wanna get one of the soon to be rare and desirable Anderson originals ya better not hesitate. jd
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product...arms+am-15+utility+rifle+5.56x45+nato+16+30+1

 

[Varminterror]

Bill Ruger was not a friend to the 2A. I can't understand the love for this company.

Bill hasn't lead the company for the last quarter century.

 

[jds holler]

Bill hasn't lead the company for the last quarter century.

Meahh, some of us aren't very forgiving about some stuff.
I copped an attitude and quit buying Rugers when they buckled and changed their single action revolvers over to the "new safe" transfer bar design, -- And then, started posting safety instructions stamped on the barrels of their rifles. I think that all happened back in the mid seventies, maybe I ought to move on, and get over it.. jd

 

[Richard308]

That safety warning stamped on the barrel looks like crap on a nice revolver. IMHO.

 

[Knotwild]

My first thought (not that they are worth anything) is that Bill Ruger devised ways to build useful and desirable guns using what were then innovative technologies. He turned out some stuff that is/was attractive and desirable and that could be used and abused. They have certainly evolved over time. My first memory of a Ruger is a tang safety .243 I bought to deer hunt with. I don't know who they bought their barrels from way back then, but it didn't shoot well at all. So I dumped it and never missed it. Then I bought a Mini 14 in .223. Trying to hit something with any accuracy was like throwing rocks. It left and I never missed it. Foolishly I bought a RAR in 22lr. It's really cute and shoots ok out to about 70 yards. The plastic stock is junk. But I would have been better served by a Tikka or CZ and regret buying it. I'll be happy when it leaves. So, when I think of Ruger, I immediately think "save a little longer and buy something nicer".

Anderson did not just make AR's. They also made a Glock style pistol that looks a lot like Ruger's new Glock clone. So I imagine that Ruger just found an affordable way to increase manufacturing capacity and will probably acquire a lot of experienced employees.

Anderson should be a good purchase. I have some Anderson AR receivers, and I wish I had saved a little more and bought a little higher quality too.

 

[CJ6]

Old friend was a HUGE Ruger collector. He had probably over 300 #1s and various others 77s, minis, pistols, 10-22s etc. He always said accuracy was a crap shoot with the #1s , but he always liked the esthetics of them.

 

[DannoXYZ]

Well, Anderson was more of "assembly plant" than a manufacturer. They bought pieces from a foundry with smelting and forging equipment (think final scenes of Terminator I and II). Anderson put final finish and their logos on it with some assembly and sold as parts kit. Same foundry also supplied forged parts like uppers & lowers to Colt and numerous others.

 

[danny]

Then I bought a Mini 14 in .223. Trying to hit something with any accuracy was like throwing rocks. It left and I never missed it.

Would you have bought an M1 Carbine or maybe an SKS and expected a high degree of accuracy from it???

A Mini 14 is basically an M1 Carbine with more power.

Instead of blaming the Mini 14 for doing what it was designed to do, maybe you should have bought some sort of bolt action.

Danny

 

[Varminterror]

Anderson did not just make AR's. They also made a Glock style pistol that looks a lot like Ruger's new Glock clone.

Eh... ish... Kind of a distinction without a difference... In 2022 and 2023, they reported 3500 and 1000 pistols, total, respectively, whereas, in the same years, they built 7500 and 28,000 rifles, and 145,000 and 300,000 receivers... They might have sold as many T-shirts and ball caps as they sold in pistols, pistols really weren't a substantial aspect of their production volume.

 

[tommeboy]

Speaking of Ruger again, they have stole a few things from other companies. The transfer bar safety was stolen directly from Charter Arms. Bill even admitted to it. Then comes the LCP. It is a direct copy of the Keltec P3A3 pistol. Keltec did not have any patents or copyrights on it because of the time and cost. So Ruger swept in and copied it. I am sure there are others but I don't remember all.

Ruger does have a very good warranty dept. Its because they need one to fix the junk they put out

 

[c3d4b2]

When Remington saw the writing on their wall, they hired an asset manager to transfer value from the company to stakeholders, CLOSED several of the subsidiary brand businesses - as in ceased production of products and fired hundreds or thousands of workers - bankrupted the company as a whole, and sold IP and physical assets through the bankruptcy proceedings - and those individual assets took different roads on the way out: Ruger purchased a levergun brand, IP, and manufacturing equipment. Rem Arms bought manufacturing equipment and brand IP to profit on a legacy name in completely unrelated manufacturing facilities, pretending to be something they are not. The Bushmaster brand was sold to someone who capitalized upon the name, again, pretending to be something they are not.

I believe you are crediting Remington for
Cerberus Capital Management's contribution...... Things never go well when a private-equity firm is involved.......

How America’s Oldest Gun Maker Went Bankrupt: A Financial Engineering Mystery (Published 2019)

When a secretive private equity firm bought Remington, sales were strong and the future bright. A decade later, the company couldn’t escape its debts.

www.nytimes.com