Ruger and Beretta

[Idaho-Lefty]

id like to have a couple of those ruger/marlins— dont think ill pay the price though.

Go to a Pawn shop or, reasonably Priced, Gun shop and Buy yourself, an Original, 336 or Model 30, Marlin for about, 1/2 the Price of, the Ruger/ Marlin, Levers !
My model 30 Marlin ( a 1990 model ) shoot's, 1 to 1 1/4 MOA group's at 100 yds w/ 150 gr Sierra's and IMR 3031
For LESS than,.. $600 !

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

I Have One, Ruger 10-22 rifle ( I used, the Action, Magazines, Bolt and Wood Stock,.. Only )
Put, a bunch of, Volquartzen Parts ( Stoned, Fitted and Polished ) in it and a New, Green Mtn Barrel on, Glass bedded, the Stock with, a Little Crow Gunwork's, "Recoil Lug", YUP,.. Shoot's,.. GREAT, Now !
The Original Rifle, all Parts, plus, New Barrel & Scope, cost Me,.. $850 total ( Did all Labor, myself ).
Rifle rested over, a Large Rock, I Blasted, a Sage Rat at, 87 Yards,.. "Priceless" !

 

[GetReal]

I Have One, Ruger 10-22 rifle ( I used, the Action, Magazines, Bolt and Wood Stock,.. Only )
Put, a bunch of, Volquartzen Parts ( Stoned, Fitted and Polished ) in it and a New, Green Mtn Barrel on, Glass bedded, the Stock with, a Little Crow Gunwork's, "Recoil Lug", YUP,.. Shoot's,.. GREAT, Now !
The Original Rifle, all Parts, plus, New Barrel & Scope, cost Me,.. $850 total ( Did all Labor, myself ).
Rifle rested over, a Large Rock, I Blasted, a Sage Rat at, 87 Yards,.. "Priceless" !

The Volquartzen 10/22. What the Ruger should have become thru factory improvements. Instead Ruger sat on this mainstay since 1964... over 60 years. It's basically the exact same rifle it was when the first one came off the production line. Its criminal. Volquartzen and Tandemkross owe their existence and success to Rugers laziness / lack of even basic innovation.

 

[jdh47]

Johnny Cash's song "One Piece At A Time" describes the 10-22 upgrades. You can buy it cheap and spend what you want to upgrade it. Most people will spend $800+ on a 10-22 upgrading it and not blink but they wouldn't buy it for that.

 

[GetReal]

Johnny Cash's song "One Piece At A Time" describes the 10-22 upgrades. You can buy it cheap and spend what you want to upgrade it. Most people will spend $800+ on a 10-22 upgrading it and not blink but they wouldn't buy it for that.

The manufacturer can acquire or produce parts that are excellent in quality much cheaper than I can buy them on the open market.

What would cost people $800 ( plus shipping, prolly another $100) in upgrades on the open market, Ruger could have produced or acquired for less than half that.

Ruger then could have sold the gun for $600 extra and people would be more than happy to pay 200 bucks less from Ruger, for the same gun they would have to pay $200 more for on their own.

Ruger could have kept selling the crappy el cheapo 10/22 *and also* produced a high quality 10/22 and both would have sold like hotcakes.

There's no excuse for what Ruger is and has done. It's indicative of their mindset for all their firearms... lower quality products with almost no innovation ever that people will buy just because of the name engraved on the receiver. Its like Crock handguns from Austria. I have no objection with people loving Ruger products and being willing to continue to purchase them, but there's no way in the world that what Ruger has done / is doing is good for the industry, good for their customers or good for the future of shooting.

I'll just be honest.. there's no way anyone ever is going to make me like Ruger as a manufacturer. Yes, Ive got a bad auttitude re: Ruger. Of course I have no comment on what other people like or prefer or choose. Have at that.

 

[RabbitSlayer]

Johnny Cash's song "One Piece At A Time" describes the 10-22 upgrades. You can buy it cheap and spend what you want to upgrade it. Most people will spend $800+ on a 10-22 upgrading it and not blink but they wouldn't buy it for that.

Yep my tricked 1022 is like 1200 or maybe 1500 cant remember. Would have been a lot easier to just buy it lole that from Ruger and maybe just change the stock. Ruger could have collected that 1200 bucks.

 

[Knotwild]

I always seem to run alone and never follow the pack, even when it may have been better to join in. I never owned a 1022, for various reasons which I won't mention. But I did buy a Bergara BXR that cost me $379 with an ACE Hardware rewards card. It came factory with the receiver drilled for cleaning, and nice stock, and and a fair trigger. With a 10X scope it's shooting some nice groups with decent ammunition.

But, what does all this have to do with Ruger resisting what appears to be a hostile takeover by Beretta?

 

[ronsatspokane]

One wonders what happened to the quality of management in the US. It's not just the firearms industry that is a target of foreign acquisitions. I've worked for a number of technology companies that were acquired by foreign buyers.

However, with respect to Beretta acquiring Ruger, Ruger does seem to be in trouble financially while Beretta's star has been rising for sometime. By sometime, I mean like for the last 500 years. 2026 will be the 500 year anniversary of their founding and they have been family owned for all that time. They have acquired a number of brands over the years and always either maintain the status of the brands or improve on them. Anybody who is familiar with brands like Holland & Holland, Sako, Tikka, Franchi, and Uberti knows that to be the case. And they also own entry level brands like Stoeger.

Much like CZ's acquisition of Colt, I think only good can come from this. They seem to be very well managed and engaged in the business to produce quality firearms like they have done for the last 500 years. They do not appear to be in the business to create golden parachutes for themselves while raping the assets of the companies they acquire.