Rifle Basix PITA

[Willoughby]

if you dont like Savages -don't buy one
I don't buy rifles for their looks = to be pretty
I buy them for how they shoot- preform
so my targets look better
some like fords & some like Chevys'
I like to change my barrels out myself
as I like the barrel burner chambering's
and to be fair every one is not a tinkerer
and factory savage triggers need to be tinkered with
honed in the right places -the right amount
and the regular AT needs the springs modified
but as far as design goes Savage is # 1 in Accuracy & safety
at least IMHO
so I buy and shoot SAVAGE

 

[BoydAllen]

I have had Savages forever. Back in the day, the second CF rifle that I ever owned was a custom 6.5x55 that was based on a Savage action. It was a sweet rifle. Later on, I worked on triggers and bedded some for friends, before pillar bedding was well known, and some time after that, a friend who worked for a rep group that handled the Savage account in this area bought one of the then new laminated stock, single shot, fluted barrel 112s in .220 Swift, and some time later, after he sold it to me with less than a hundred rounds fired, it became the subject of a Precision Shooting article that showed the then new Rifle Basix SAV II trigger that I had installed on the action, and Bill Shehane's then new drop in varmint stock. During that time, or perhaps a few years before, I suggested to a couple of barrel makers that they offer drop in barrels for Remingtons that used Savage type nuts, which finally has come to be, and I think they have gone over pretty well. So you see, I am hardly opposed to Savages, particularly for any sort of field shooting. On the other hand, for short range benchrest matches, I think that they would not be the way to go, unless for local club matches, where they have done very well. Of course we all know what a good account they have given of themselves in FTR competition.

 

[Willoughby]

there is several gun makers using savage designs now -including Remington
imitation is the most sincere form of flattery

 

[CatShooter]

there is several gun makers using savage designs now -including Remington
imitation is the most sincere form of flattery

You mean the 783? I wouldn't call a $350 rifle that is competing with the axis and edge, flattering. Remington will take that market away from Savage.

 

[nosualc]

The Accutrigger design -IS- indeed very good. It allows Savage to sell a mass produced, cheaply made (stamped parts), adjustable trigger that is also very safe. From an engineering/manufacturing perspective, it's genius.

However, to argue that they're qualitatively better than a Jewell is more than a stretch.

-nosualc

 

[BigDMT]

The Accutrigger design -IS- indeed very good...... From an engineering/manufacturing perspective, it's genius.

-nosualc

Now that's funny. ;D

the original adjustable savage triggers on the flat back models were better in my opinion. but neither the old style or the new accutrigger are "good designs" by any means. the blade on the accutrigger was an improvement for safety, but still retains all the other properties of the horrible savage design.

i think the safest and most reliable trigger design on rifles in use today lays within the old Ruger M77 Tang Safety models. I absolutely love them once i work them over. no creep, external pull weight adjustment, super crisp, can safely get just under 1 lb and sear is completely blocked when safety is engaged. i just love those actions all together. too bad they arent good enough for competition accuracy standards...but im getting off track now, sorry.

 

[rayjay]

I have one set at a repeatable -safe- 10 oz using ink pen springs

The OP isn't after 10 oz.

Once you've used a real 2 oz trigger for bench use switching to 6 oz seems like a wrestling match. I got my start in precision rifles with a Savage 112 single shot action but once I came up with the intractability of the trigger issue I switched to Vipers and 40X's all with Jewels.

Also have had some Annies with the 5018.Now THAT is a trigger.

 

[rayjay]

The Accutrigger design -IS- indeed very good. It allows Savage to sell a mass produced, cheaply made (stamped parts), adjustable trigger that is also very safe. From an engineering/manufacturing perspective, it's genius.

-nosualc

EVERY aspect of the original Savage 110 design is biased towards lowest cost and ease of manufacture.

EVERY aspect .

 

[CaptainMal]

In all fairness to Rifle Basics this might be a retraction of my earlier experience. Just got done beating my target action hard and slamming the bolt. When it went off on me twice, a couple weeks ago, I was horribly sick with the flue. Actually not on top of what I was doing. Might I have set the trigger off by mistake twice?

Today I measured a pretty consistent 6 oz. touch and I do mean I beat the bolt and gun shut. NO ISSUES. I'm not going to take it apart before shooting next time. I could not duplicate what I thought was a problem a couple weeks ago.

 

[BigDMT]

........ I could not duplicate what I thought was a problem a couple weeks ago.

That's the scary part!