Remington lays off 600, refuses to pay severance or vacation.
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When I was growing up my father didnt say a whole lot..he is a veteran in fact i believe all the men in my family have been up to my generation..i thank them dearly for the peace and freedom i have been blessed with in my life..
I was (told) when your at the store you buy American..that ment..Ford..John Deer, GE smuckers..and damn it that ment remington also..fishimg was a different story..
Not any more..if i were to tell my kids you have to buy American ...they would say..dad..we would but what out there is American..
My father's USA isn't the same USA he handed me..is it always that fast..can some one over the age of 50 please answer that for me.
Now back to Remington..
hahaha..what the hell its only jobs..
. all those old skilled gunsmiths just get rid of them..
. hand fitted triggers.so old fashion.
.hand lapped barrels..takes to long..
. what!!! Real wood stocks..from a tree..are you crazy..
..buy a few CNC machines .
A voice from the back ...now that we have CNC lets cut the quality control wing lose also..i have a third home to pay for.
. I ask
What is happening to our country..am i the only one who is seeing this..covid has every one squirreled away in there homes and there are alot of major corporations going under..is the USA in a depression and were all just to scared to stick our heads out side and take a look at the mess..
Maybe you may see what I see on your walk to the voting booth ..
Just saying..
Whos left..smith and wesson and ruger..im sure there next on the political chopping block..
Let close down all the gun manufacturers..and open marijana cultivating and dispensaries..greaten the internet bandwidth and push the i phones and the Starbucks..the sheep won't know what hit them...bahahahaha..
Wake up Amazon...i mean AMERICA
sorry forum members for going off a bit..its a scary time..i have never experienced such social unrest in my life time....every one is so scared most people are even nice to one another..
All i can say is this America isn't looking so great to me....
I was (told) when your at the store you buy American..that ment..Ford..John Deer, GE smuckers..and damn it that ment remington also..fishimg was a different story..
Not any more..if i were to tell my kids you have to buy American ...they would say..dad..we would but what out there is American..
My father's USA isn't the same USA he handed me..is it always that fast..can some one over the age of 50 please answer that for me.
Now back to Remington..
hahaha..what the hell its only jobs..
. all those old skilled gunsmiths just get rid of them..
. hand fitted triggers.so old fashion.
.hand lapped barrels..takes to long..
. what!!! Real wood stocks..from a tree..are you crazy..
..buy a few CNC machines .
A voice from the back ...now that we have CNC lets cut the quality control wing lose also..i have a third home to pay for.
. I ask
What is happening to our country..am i the only one who is seeing this..covid has every one squirreled away in there homes and there are alot of major corporations going under..is the USA in a depression and were all just to scared to stick our heads out side and take a look at the mess..
Maybe you may see what I see on your walk to the voting booth ..
Just saying..
Whos left..smith and wesson and ruger..im sure there next on the political chopping block..
Let close down all the gun manufacturers..and open marijana cultivating and dispensaries..greaten the internet bandwidth and push the i phones and the Starbucks..the sheep won't know what hit them...bahahahaha..
Wake up Amazon...i mean AMERICA
sorry forum members for going off a bit..its a scary time..i have never experienced such social unrest in my life time....every one is so scared most people are even nice to one another..
All i can say is this America isn't looking so great to me....
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hogpatrol
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Many reasons they were in trouble, NY regulations, too much debt, but mostly it was bad management. They were late to the game with black guns and pistols. Others moved in to that space and the hunting gun market is now a small percentage of overall sales. They need to upgrade quality and get back to their core business of center fire rifles, albeit with a smaller market share.
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Well they did move their jobs to alabama years ago- maybe remington forgot about them
I don’t think so. Friend told me they were shutting down here in Alabama and moving those operations to New York. Go figure. Would make more sense to shut down New York and move to Alabama.
Riesel
Gold $$ Contributor
Since we're kicking that Remington Can down the road, here's my two cents. Remington needs to get out of the gutter with their rifles, leave that low end market alone. Sell your Model 783 as your entry level and me, personally, think its plenty good metal for an entry level rifle. Make those 700's, but make them right. No short cuts and step up to the plate on QC. Kick it up a couple of notches to Tikka, CZ, Kimber, Cooper quality
and put some decent triggers and stocks on them. The 700 is a fine action. Next, leave them unions out in the waiting room. Unions don't give a rat's butt about the employees they just want the dues and the good life it gives Union Leaders. I'm not hearing how the X-Remington employees are getting any help from their union
pension. Lastly, move your operation to some place that cares about you and would welcome you with open arms, maybe even back to Alabama. I wouldn't even try to open a Lemonade Stand in New York.
There, I feel better now. Vote for the guy tha's going to protect our Second Amendment Rights.
and put some decent triggers and stocks on them. The 700 is a fine action. Next, leave them unions out in the waiting room. Unions don't give a rat's butt about the employees they just want the dues and the good life it gives Union Leaders. I'm not hearing how the X-Remington employees are getting any help from their union
pension. Lastly, move your operation to some place that cares about you and would welcome you with open arms, maybe even back to Alabama. I wouldn't even try to open a Lemonade Stand in New York.
There, I feel better now. Vote for the guy tha's going to protect our Second Amendment Rights.
Is it just rumor that I heard the the Native americans might be building remington guns due to the lawsuits against them..... Just something I heard but it might be a benefit of both parties ..
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
They tried to sell the whole company to the choctaw nation i think, so they could be immune to the lawsuits but that deal fell thru
1raggedhole
Silver $$ Contributor
The layoffs are a shame for sure, but there are two main takeaways;
- record gun sales over the last few election cycles, and somehow Remington goes bankrupt? Obviously the management is incompetent...
- and NY has been hostile to weapons for years. Maybe they should have closed shop and moved years ago
butchlambert
Site $$ Sponsor
Dusty,
It was not the Choctaw Nation, but I forgot who.
wkdickinson
Gold $$ Contributor
Tough deal for a lot of people. But bankruptcy really changes the rules and unfortunately "labor", even wages owed are pretty far down the priority list. The government (taxes) gets the first cut, then the secured creditors... Severance pay and vacation I doubt even make the list.I'm not a huge Remington fan, but if this is how the new owners are treating their workers, I will boycott their business in the future.
Remington Arms, oldest U.S. gunmaker, to lay off 585 employees in New York, union says
Remington Arms, the oldest gunmaker in the country, is laying off nearly 600 workers in New York, according to an employee union.www.yahoo.com
I work management in manufacturing. A smart person goes into that job knowing that the company doesn’t give two craps about you. Anyone who is outraged that works for remington lives under a rock. I know for a fact that as soon as my company can automate my position or hire one manager to manage multiple departments they will. I’ve gotten a lot of “lateral promotions” since being with my company. No one cares about you, but you. That’s life. I’m bouncing as soon as I find another silly job that pays more. Work to live, not live to work. Sadly, that’s what America has come to now. Should have just stayed active duty.
DirtySteve
Gold $$ Contributor
Well the Remington workers belong to the United Mine Workers Union... So just what does Remington have to do with mining.. Close up shop in NY and bring workers back with out a union tie..
Come to Wisconsin. On your way through Germantown stop and see how a barrel is made..
Just imagine what it would be right now if it weren’t for Donald J Trump and how much worse it would even be four more years from now
hogpatrol
Gold $$ Contributor
I worked for a company that went bankrupt on a Friday. Monday we had no pensions, overtime pay, vacation or health insurance. Over the years, good people departed and it changed hands a few times. Today it is a bare ground lot. It wasn't a union that ran it in to the ground. It was incompetent management, government regulations and our congress in Washington.
DHuffman
Silver $$ Contributor
I heard Navajo but don't know firsthand.
I've been keeping up with an ongoing thread on THR about this, one poster is a Mechanical Engineer in the Huntsville AL area so hears what's happening there from (now ex) Remington colleagues. Synopsis is Remington already laid of all 585 Huntsville employees except a skeleton crew to wind things down and park the equipment, so Remington's attempt to survive with a Southern US production facility fell flat on its face alongside Ilion NY already.
Some Roundhill executives are reported to be former Remington executives. I'll post a link to that thread for those interested here if that's not considered bad form here, linking to a thread on a different forum.
Some Roundhill executives are reported to be former Remington executives. I'll post a link to that thread for those interested here if that's not considered bad form here, linking to a thread on a different forum.
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