Remington agrees to `retrofit’ several million rifles

[Joe Salt]

Take the CARS AWAY! More stupid people drive them.

Joe Salt

 

[people]

Take the CARS AWAY! More stupid people drive them.

Joe Salt

So true but that is using logic. The anti-gun people do not use logic.

 

[Area Man]

A Model 700 rifle fired when Barber’s wife, Barbara, released the safety as she prepared to unload the gun, the family says.

I don't understand this part of the report quoted by the OP.

Was there ever a Remington 700 version that had the bolt locked with the safety in the SAFE position?

I had a "premature" discharge with a Model 700 once in a hunting situation. As I pushed the safety lever forward I applied pressure to the trigger and fired into the sky. I should not have had finger inside trigger guard, I know and I learned from it.

 

[Albany Mountain]

Was there ever a Remington 700 version that had the bolt locked with the safety in the SAFE position?

Yes

 

[tjtjwdad]

Does anyone know if this effects the 40-x triggers?

Thx,

 

[rkittine]

According to a friend of mine who recently retired from Remington, this is on all models with Walker Triggers only, but until the court approves the trigger replacement / reimbursement deal, who knows.

Bob

 

[Ledd Slinger]

It's a voluntary replacement offer, not a recall. I wouldn't send my 700 in for an X-Mark Pro trigger replacement in a million years. The X-Mark is junk. Nor would I waste the time to send a rifle to the factory when I can easily do it myself. The old style factory 700 triggers are much better if worked over properly and safely. If anything, see if they will give you a credit voucher, put it towards a Jewell and be done with it.

 

[Jim See]

Guys, Back in the late 70's or early 80's they changed the triggers "bolt lock feature" The old triggers had a lever attaches to the safety lever, that would lock your bolt closed on safe. So you were forced to put your gun on fire to open the bolt. This lever could easily be cut off to disengage the bolt lock feature and keep a functioning safety.

Which is basically what remington did with the next generation of trigger which followed back in the 80s. nothing else changed.

Now the problem that creates the miss-fires is the fact that the trigger has a floating trigger to sear contact bar over it. The sear bar sets on the trigger and is held in place by spring force, If dirt builds up between the 2 independent parts it acts like decreasing actual sear engagement. Normally most gun owners noticed a slam fire condition when working an empty gun and realized something was wrong. Some people would close there bolts real slow so it wouldn't slam fire on a live round and then go hunting. those same people were real surprised when there gun went off when the safety did.

I had about 3-4 models 700 come in my shop in 6 years with these issues. Everyone had the same chronic problem, NEGLECT, dirty, filthy as in the barreled action may never have been out of the stock in 20 years. Some had visible cronic rust between the stock and metal. Many were gummed up with oil rust and debree.

None of them were adjusted by the owner, which is odd as you would think someone who adjusted the trigger lighter would be more prone to problems? right? Well in fact most people who know enough to adjust a trigger know enough to keep it clean and maintained, and if it shows a lack of safety readjust it to perform safely.

I agree that she violated a safety rule, but that family paid a hefty price for it, I would hate to have to be in there shoes.

 

[Bugs]

I have lost track of the model 700's and variants that have migrated in and out of my gun room over the years (I currently own and shoot about 7 or 8) and I have never had an issue with factory Remington triggers. God bless the family that lost a son but I just cannot bring myself to blame the trigger in this matter. I have adjusted and tuned and cleaned and changed countless Remington triggers and they work fine in my experience. The one fundamental gun safety rule that was violated is simply not to ever (repeat, ever) point a gun of any description in the general direction of anything (or anyone) that you might regret shooting. Not to be throwing any blame around but it is simply incumbent on the gun owner / user to follow this rule 100% of the time.

 

[tjtjwdad]

According to a friend of mine who recently retired from Remington, this is on all models with Walker Triggers only, but until the court approves the trigger replacement / reimbursement deal, who knows.

Bob

Does that include the 40-x trigger? I know what the X-Mark-Pro [XMP] trigger is but the older style (like 1970 vintage in my case) looks a lot like the 40-x triggers except the 40-x can be adjusted externally, whereas the other one has to have the action removed to adjust it.

Thx,