Rem 700 magazines converted to 6BR purchasable?

[jb1000br]

Do the empty cases eject?

JB

 

[mysticplayer]

Companies like PacNor and Shilen all have the specs and make prefit barrels. I have seen ER Shaw list such barrels but have no first hand experience. Given that they make for the aftermarket like Adams and Bennett, I see no issue.

Brownells, MidwayUSA and Numrich also have barrels ready to go.

That barrel nut, so often critizied, makes fitting a barrel so easy. Any experienced smith will be able to chamber a blank without the need for your action.

JB, The action will eject the 6BR case.

Except for blocking the mag, this is likely the easiest action to convert and set up for a D mag 6BR/6BRX rig. A 6XC/6Lapua will work out of the existing mag just fine,factory chambers for 22/250). With a bit of tweaking, the 6.5-284 case might just fit too. Mag is certainly long enough to be interesting.

The mag only holds 4 rds though so a bit of a pain if using for high power matches. I hope that the aftermarket will resolve this problem soon. All that is needed is a drop floor plate to allow that fifth rd to fit.

Jerry

 

[ghermitage]

That barrel nut, so often critizied, makes fitting a barrel so easy.

What criticisms are made of the barrel nut?
Is it as good at maintaining an alignment between barrel and action as any other way of doing it?

A 6XC/6Lapua will work out of the existing mag just fine,factory chambers for 22/250).

The difference in body tapering between 22/250 and 6Lap isn't going to change the height of the point that the round is pushed to when the bolt is pushed forward?

Changing barrels is extremely easy with the Savage. Once you get the tools

What tools are needed?

Does Savage sell actions separately? Doing what people usually do when they just want the action, selling the stock and barrel, is awkward from here because the buyer is likely in a different country and there is export and import paperwork for firearms components and transport costs are higher - it is likely to put people off buying. I would have to go through this when buying stuff from distributors in the US of course.

 

[mysticplayer]

The main beef about the nut is how it looks. Too many rifle purist find the Savage action ugly. The nut is arguably a better way to lock the barrel to the action as it puts no strain on the barrel itself. This is really splitting hairs.

The way Savage designs their mags, all cartridges in the same family use the same mag. So the 308 mag also works for the 22/250 or 243. You'll see when you hold the mag. A very nice setup that accomodates case dimension differences very well.

Where do you live? Might be easier then you think to sell off the stuff.

There are some in the US that get or strip rifles for their action. I don't think Savage does that factory direct. For me, the best way is to buy a Stevens 200 and sell off the parts. Even if I didn't, the rifle is so cheap, I couldn't buy a used Rem 700 for the same money.

You will need a barrel vise,I use a 5" bench top vise with shaped blocks of hardwood), a nut wrench,available from Brownells or ebay), headspace guages, and a large rubber mallet.

Clamp the barrel, loosen the nut with hammer and wrench, spin off old barrel, spin on new barrel with nut, set the headspace, tighten the nut. Recheck headspace and you are ready to make noise.

Do a google for Adams and Bennett barrels. They have step by step instructions for barrel install with pics. After you do the first one, you will wonder why other rifles don't use this same install.

Then the real problem begins. Spending way too much money on all sorts of barrels, then bolt heads, stocks and accessories. A standard barrel shank long action can be set up to shoot the 223 all the way to a 458Win mag just by swapping parts.

Fun, fun, fun...

Jerry

 

[ghermitage]

Where do you live?
Might be easier then you think to sell off the stuff.

South Australia. There are folks in the US that call themselves Southern, but latitudinally this is way more southern.
I will start noticing what Savage/Stevens parts are being resold down this way.

Stevens 200 and sell off the parts.

Has the Stevens brand been moved to the new true center feed magazine?

all sorts of barrels, then bolt heads, stocks and accessories.

The bolt head is replaceable as well?

Jerry, thanks for all this.

 

[mysticplayer]

I don't think the Stevens have changed yet but I don't bother with mag feeding in my target rifles.

Yes, the bolt heads can be swapped. Takes another 5 mins. to do.

If no one wants to buy your stuff down under, I would be happy to look at your stuff. There are no restrictions in sending rifle parts to Canada.

Jerry

 

[ghermitage]

MidwayUSA has a note about Savage rifles, and amongst other things it says

The new AccuTriggerâ„¢ utilizes a receiver with milling cuts specific to this trigger group application. Savage rifles that are currently produced with the Savage AccuTriggerâ„¢ will not accept aftermarket triggers.

http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/staticpages/charts/savage_rifle_info.htm

Are there are now aftermarket triggers for receivers milled for AccuTrigger?

 

[mysticplayer]

Contact Sharp Shooters Supply and Rifle Basix. I am sure you will see that their triggers fit in the Accutrigger actions without issue.

Jerry

 

[tmbryant]

Look at Mike Bryants web site.

He shows haw to do exactly wahat yurs asking for.
Reustystud

Yes, he is the author of the article linked to at the beginning of the thread. I guess such work would be at the custom hourly rate.

Even the Accuracy International magazines seem to need conversion.

Given the suitability of 6mmBR for varminting and the popularity of the Rem 700 action, its odd a stock-standard solution hasn't emerged.

The "article" was written to show people how to do the magazine conversion themselves, not to get work converting magazines for myself and is why the cost to do the conversion is not listed on my web site. Basically all it is, is blocking the magazine and shortening the follower to allow it to fit in the magazine. Its worked pretty well with 6 BR's. .20 BR's need a longer block and shorter follower. I don't offer converted magazines as a regular item as it takes a lot of various magazine parts to make and adding the time to do the conversion, makes it fairly expensive for what it is. The article is soley for the purpose to show you how to do it, so you can do it yourself. Remington magazine parts are available from Brownells. You do need a .308 BDL follower to make the conversion as the stamped steel ADL follower is not suitable to be reground.

 

[ghermitage]

The "article" was written to show people how to do the magazine conversion themselves, not to get work converting magazines for myself and is why the cost to do the conversion is not listed on my web site.

Yes, that intention was fairly clear. Thanks for making the information available.

Subsequent to this discussion, I was persuaded that a single-shot rifle is viable for varminting. The 2007 Savage Target action will be purchaseable as a separate item in a few months, and I guess I will try Left Port Right Bolt. The trigger is a new target version of the Accutrigger, so there is less need for an aftermarket trigger. I would get a prefit barrel, possibly Lothar Walther, and fit it to the action at home. The barrel would be optimised for the 75gr VMax e.g. 1 in 12" twist.

 

[rmorr01]

I will try and get a few BR cases and just see what happens when they are fed into my 308 chamber.

Please do. Sounds like Savage may have already completely solved this problem. I gather their barrels are easier to replace too.
Will have to consider getting a Savage rifle. First question to look at will be what triggers and stocks are available for these rifles, though I understand that the AccuTrigger is pretty good for a factory trigger.

I see both their new detachable and non-detachable magazines have straight-line feed.

I've seen the newer style straight-line feed in a Stevens Model 200 .243. Wonder if I can purchase the feed system without having to buy the rifle to retro fit in my Sav 10fp . Wish-full thinking I suppose.