Mark W
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I picked up a V2 without the Autothrow from a member here that upgraded to a V4. It didn’t take me long to go back to trickling with my Dandy. I’ll probably end up listing the V2 for sale shortly.
Reloading scales
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I picked up a V2 without the Autothrow from a member here that upgraded to a V4. It didn’t take me long to go back to trickling with my Dandy. I’ll probably end up listing the V2 for sale shortly.
Actually they list it as an entry level milligram scale.
sqrlgtr
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Forgot to mention that I throw powder a few tenths under with the lee perfect powder thrower. You would be surprised how close the lee will throw a powder charge. Mine is a least 20 yr old and have never had a bit of trouble out of it, best $12 Ive spent lol...I think they are closer to $25 in todays market....
@1bamashooter what was the difference in accuracy after switching from chargemaster to V4?
I do the same. Lee Perfect, then I use a manual trickler and/or spoon a kernel at a time onto my Gem Pro 250. That $25 dollar Lee gets you 99% there pretty consistently!
AND makes lots of scales for laboratory use. I think these reloading scales are designed for much lower weight ranges than most. 1mg accuracy which is about .015 grains.
That's what I would do before the auto tricker.
The Lee powder drop is pretty good for the money.
A&D FX-120i - 122g x 0.001g Precision Balance
A&D Weighing FX-120I - 122g x 0.001g - 5 year Warranty - Top Loading Balance External Calibration. Ships from Canada. Best value precision scale on the market. Popular as a reloading scale for marksmen.
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Thanks for the clarification, the last I heard this is a milligram scale / balance whatever it’s called not analytical. Is this correct ?
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On target accuracy?
Yes. I am considering the purchase and would be grateful for your feedback. Assuming you did not change other steps in your reloading process and were able to isolate the solo "scale factor".
I don't think that is a scale though. Don't you have to use that with some kind of scale?
Don't get hung up on descriptions. AnD calls it Standard Level Precision. This is an excellent scale with an actual Accuracy (95% of readings) of ~.06 grains.This one ?A&D FX-120i - 122g x 0.001g Precision Balance
A&D Weighing FX-120I - 122g x 0.001g - 5 year Warranty - Top Loading Balance External Calibration. Ships from Canada. Best value precision scale on the market. Popular as a reloading scale for marksmen.
Thanks for the clarification, the last I heard this is a milligram scale / balance whatever it’s called not analytical. Is this correct ?
Absolutely my ES and SDs dropped significantly which resulted in smaller groups plus it cut my reloading time down considerably too. I shoot F Open 600 and 1K I doubt you would see much of a change in short range.
Where are you getting this number?
I've always heard +/- 0.02gr for the FX120i and a quick Google search pops up the same info 0.02.
I have an old RCBS Chargemaster scale, and as an experiment, I bought two cheap milligram digital scales from Amazon to compare it to.
The first scale I bought.
This one reads to 0.1 grains. The drift was really bad, and the drift was much more erratic than the drift on the Chargemaster when setup next to each other. I just use it to check bullet weights now.
The second scale I bought.
This one reads to 0.01 grains. The drift on this matches the drift on the RCBS Chargemaster scale. It is more sensitive than the Chargemaster in that I can remove one kernel of powder, and it will show the difference, where the Chargemaster reading may not change for one kernel within it's internal rounding limit.
If I trickle 40.1 grains on the Chargemaster, then weight that powder on the cheapo scale, it may show 40.17. I then remove one kernel, and it goes to 40.11, with no change on the Chargemaster. So the resolution is a bit finer.
The Chargemaster and this cheapo drift in unison with change in temperature. The several times I've used them together, they drift almost identically.
I use both at the same time - trickle onto the Chargemaster, then verify on the cheapo scale if I need to remove one or two kernels.
From my results, I can use this scale as a backup should my Chargemaster die, until I get a new scale. I'm happy to use it for comparison, but not as a permanent replacement to the Chargemaster scale.
My next experiment is to try a more expensive analytical balance in the $130 range.
The first scale I bought.
This one reads to 0.1 grains. The drift was really bad, and the drift was much more erratic than the drift on the Chargemaster when setup next to each other. I just use it to check bullet weights now.
The second scale I bought.
This one reads to 0.01 grains. The drift on this matches the drift on the RCBS Chargemaster scale. It is more sensitive than the Chargemaster in that I can remove one kernel of powder, and it will show the difference, where the Chargemaster reading may not change for one kernel within it's internal rounding limit.
If I trickle 40.1 grains on the Chargemaster, then weight that powder on the cheapo scale, it may show 40.17. I then remove one kernel, and it goes to 40.11, with no change on the Chargemaster. So the resolution is a bit finer.
The Chargemaster and this cheapo drift in unison with change in temperature. The several times I've used them together, they drift almost identically.
I use both at the same time - trickle onto the Chargemaster, then verify on the cheapo scale if I need to remove one or two kernels.
From my results, I can use this scale as a backup should my Chargemaster die, until I get a new scale. I'm happy to use it for comparison, but not as a permanent replacement to the Chargemaster scale.
My next experiment is to try a more expensive analytical balance in the $130 range.
Yes, I bought the entire kit. It comes with the auto trickler and an A&D FX 120i electronic scale.
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TheCZKid
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I got the A&D EJ-54D2 and the Dandy Trickler, excellent combo for me, loading my 17 Hornet. With that cartridge it really makes a LOT of difference about .05 +/- variance. I throw my charge to .10 lower with my RCBS Chargemaster 1500, then transfer it to the tray on the EJ-54D2 and trickle it up to the exact load. For example, my hornet likes 12.6 grains of CFE-BLK, so I throw 12.5 in my Chargemaster and then trickle the rest. The scale measures to .005 grains, and I have found it to be accurate. And it doesn't take very long to register slight differences in powder, though not as instant as it's more expensive brother, the FX-120i. The Dandy Trickler is pretty easy to adjust to trickle various types of powders in small increments, like a grain.
Looks nice. Are you a competition shooter? Measuring twice is what i do now using two digital scales and a balance beam to check those. But i only doing it to set my progressive then i crank them out like a machine.
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