Quickload

[riflewoman]

Quickload is "NOT" a NECO product, they are only selling it in the U.S. for the German company that owns the copyright.

https://www.neconos.com/quickload-f-a-q-s/
Q: I don’t have a disk drive; can i just download QuickLOAD?

A: Because QuickLOAD is developed and published in Germany, it is subject to German law. The German Government has determined that this software program falls under ITAR restrictions. Therefore, it is only available in physical form, no downloads. If someone tells you otherwise, it is NOT QuickLOAD.

If this statement about ITAR was true, then NECO is violating these regulations. NECO has to determine who they are selling to is not a “Non US Person” and that they Will not transfer it to a Non US person. For each and every copy. Do they do that?

 

[Uncle Ed]

If this statement about ITAR was true, then NECO is violating these regulations. NECO has to determine who they are selling to is not a “Non US Person” and that they Will not transfer it to a Non US person. For each and every copy. Do they do that?

QuickLOAD/QuickTARGET Ballistic Prediction Software, V3.9
https://www.neconos.com/item/QuickLOADQuickTARGET-Ballistic-Prediction-Software-V3.9-3

NO EUROPEAN ORDERS, PLEASE. SEE LIST BELOW for dealers. QuickLOAD/QuickTARGET is absolutely the finest ballistic prediction software. User friendly program allows the handloader to accurately predict results for more than 1200 cartridges, 250 powders and 2500 bullets. Data for user created wildcats can be entered and results computed. The program is updated on an approximately annual basis. QuickLOAD version is 3.9 and is compatible with WINDOWS 2000, XP, VISTA, Windows 7, Winows 8 and Windows 10.

PLEASE NOTE: If you live in Europe, please order QuickLOAD/QuickTARGET from the following source: Ing. Hartmut Broemel, Neubrecker Weg 15, D-64832 Babenhausen, Germany, fax/phone (+49) 0 6073 688481 Reimer Johannsen GmbH, Haart 49, D-24535 Neumuenster Phone +49 4321 2758, Fax +49 4321 29325, Quickload Order Nr. LEW 999, or Frankonia Jagd, 97064 Wurzburg, TEl. 0180 5372699, www.frankonia.de, QuickLOAD Artikel Nr: 127131, or in Great Britain by: JMS Arms, Merrivale, London Road, Handcross, West Sussex, RH17 6BA, England, Phone: 01444 400126, in Finland by: FinnAccuracy, Nummentie 31, FIN-08100 Lohja, Phone +358 400325765, www.finnaccuracy.com, in Czech Republic by: LN Original, P.O. Box 17, 11901 Praha 012-Hrad, Phone +420 603 434 872, www.lnoriginal.com,

Price: $152.95

 

[riflewoman]

Those describe the distributorships.

if I was to order from NECO with a US mailing address for a customer in Korea, that would be an ITAR violation on my part AND NECOs part. Their culpability is from their failure to obtain an end user certificate from me.

 

[Zero333]

I can't see why ITAR would care about quickload because it's a niche market made up of old people.
Will a t-rr-r-st use QL ? I doubt it.

 

[Uncle Ed]

Those describe the distributorships.

if I was to order from NECO with a US mailing address for a customer in Korea, that would be an ITAR violation on my part AND NECOs part. Their culpability is from their failure to obtain an end user certificate from me.

riflewoman

My heartburn with NECO is they do not own the pattent to Quickload and a German citizen does. And yet NECO went around to firearms forums telling everyone they were breaking the copyright laws if they gave out Quickload info to anyone else.

Now show me any firearms forums or individuals that had a lawsuit brought against them by NECO or the German owner of the pattent. The answer to this is "NO ONE" because the output of Quickload is not copyright protected. So my heartburn is because NECO lied about the copyright law in the hopes of make more money selling Quickload disks.

The OP asked if anyone would do a Quickload workup for him, and the real question is if his request is a copyright violation. And the answer is it is "NOT" a copyright violation. Because the OP did not ask anyone to copy the Quickload disk and send it to him.

 

[GeoffreyKolbe]

Those describe the distributorships.

if I was to order from NECO with a US mailing address for a customer in Korea, that would be an ITAR violation on my part AND NECOs part. Their culpability is from their failure to obtain an end user certificate from me.

If you live in the United States then you are the person exporting the CDs, so it is up to you to get an export licence. However, if you tell NECO that it is your intent to export the CDs to Korea, then NECO would require an End User Undertaking from the Korea end user and would have to apply for an export license.

 

[Uncle Ed]

If you live in the United States then you are the person exporting the CDs, so it is up to you to get an export licence. However, if you tell NECO that it is your intent to export the CDs to Korea, then NECO would require an End User Undertaking from the Korea end user and would have to apply for an export license.

The topic is can anyone give Quickload data to someone else. And the answer is yes because they are not breaking copyright laws.

The real problem is with Quickload you need a chronograph to adjust the burn rate in Quickload until the velocity matches your chronograph. This and other tweaks like the correct case capacity to get computer generated guesstimates. Meaning the vast majority of people asking for Quickload information do not provide enough information to get anything close to correct Quickload output data.

Example, Quickload defaults to the lowest case capacity, so with the .223 this is 28.0 and a Lake City 5.56 case is 30.6. And with the same load of 25.0 grains of H335 there would be 5,000 psi difference in chamber pressures.

 

[antelopedundee]

That's one of the reasons to use PM's.

Pretty Much!

 

[esromvre1]

Can someone who knows this program please pm me I’m out of my league using this and would love a little help from someone who knows how to use this program.