PSA - Noobs and Retail Store Help Rant

[Comrade Terry]

VMA-311 MAG-12?

Yes, sir.

I must confess - there were times that we fueled and reloaded them with the engine running. Gotta do what you gotta do to get 'em turned around.

 

[Comrade Terry]

you will not hear a single complaint from any Marine or navy corpsman in Phu Bia,,

When they were hunkered down, and the A-4s came in on the deck, there was hot brass and links raining down on them as Charles got lit up. That was my job - make sure the guns work, the napes were fuzed correctly, et cetera. We had some birds come back with vegetation in the bomb rack sway braces.

 

[pirate ammo]

Yes, sir.

I must confess - there were times that we fueled and reloaded them with the engine running. Gotta do what you gotta do to get 'em turned around.

hell, my engine was running all the time in 68, turned me into a ground pounder, Corpsman,,

 

[timeout]

if it's the type of boresighter I'm thinking about, it fits on the crown with a magnetic base, unless the barrel is cut PERFECT you would need a target the size of a piece of plywood, 4'x8'
I got one , not worth EL TORO CACA,,

Some years ago a friend of a friend was deer hunting with our group. He missed a fantastic buck at around 50 yards. I took him to a makeshift target on a 4'X8' plywood, from 75 yards he missed the plywood. He had purchased a scope somewhere and had it mounted and bore sighted. Picked it up the night before the season opener. So much for bore sighting.

 

[GSPV]

I was down at Ezell's a long time ago. Deer season was coming up. Some guys just left that had wanted him to bore sight a rifle that was, according to them, already sighted in. People, man, people!

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

I had a guy at a shop lose his s$$t with me because I refused to buy 357Sig ammo to shoot in my 357 magnum wheel gun.

No matter how many boxes of ammo he unpacked to show me its says 357 on the box he just couldn’t understand why I would not buy it and later told me to come back when I know what I want

 

[jimmymac]

What is this fancy bore sighter thingy you guys talk about? Damn gizmos.

100 yard range.
6 inch dot on a big piece of backing paper.
Set gun on a solid rest.
Pull bolt.
Look through bore.
Center bore on dot.
Adjust scope crosshairs to dot.
Shot number 1 on the paper.
Shot number 2. Vertical adjusted.
Shot number 3. Horizontal adjusted.
Done

 

[Riesel]

I've heard that "Ignorance is Bliss" but in these cases it Ain't

 

[GSPV]

What is this fancy bore sighter thingy you guys talk about? Damn gizmos.

100 yard range.
6 inch dot on a big piece of backing paper.
Set gun on a solid rest.
Pull bolt.
Look through bore.
Center bore on dot.
Adjust scope crosshairs to dot.
Shot number 1 on the paper.
Shot number 2. Vertical adjusted.
Shot number 3. Horizontal adjusted.
Done

This because experience has shown me that noobs will burn up a box of shells without getting zeroed. You have to send them out the door with it printing close for them to have a prayer.

 

[Falfan2017]

Lol! You probably already knew this but you can use .380 in your Mak.

Luger works now a pinch too but won't feed or fit in a mag. And I wouldn't try it but That's the point of the mak. Can use anything NATO had but NATO can't use mak ammo because it's slightly wider.

 

[jimmymac]

This because experience has shown me that noobs will burn up a box of shells without getting zeroed. You have to send them out the door with it printing close for them to have a prayer.

Agreed. This is why it is best to take new people to the range, hand hold them and show them how it’s done. I helped the neighbor. Now he’s a monster and kicks my behind.

 

[GSPV]

Agreed. This is why it is best to take new people to the range, hand hold them and show them how it’s done. I helped the neighbor. Now he’s a monster and kicks my behind.

I'd hold him back to supervise him if I could. Fortunately, he's shooting at a place where the range officer, who is an OK guy, is helping him and backing up what I'm telling him.

 

[Ggmac]

Thanks for your service . Unless you repar or build em , using lathes and such are best NOT learned on the web . Put t this way , would you be passenger in if the pilot learned to fly from reading posts on the web .
Yes I'm against not learning first hand , after all ,I took 6 yrs of being the apprentice , 6 1/2 actually ,and cringe every time I hear someone's reasoning . Well , I drive a truck for a living , well , I'm so and so , well then we see that we can't protect em all . Safety is my only concern , not the quality of work , I've seen too many new to machinery get hurt .
But I guess I'm old school . Yes it can be done doesn't mean it should . We are a self governed practice , I'd like to keep it that way .
I'm glad I'm retired , I'm glad you at least have common sense and are a stickler for safety ( otherwise you wouldn't be here ) . I still recommend finding someone and practice with them for awhile .
Rant over , best of luck and thanks for your service .
Gary

 

[pirate ammo]

Thanks for your service . Unless you repar or build em , using lathes and such are best NOT learned on the web . Put t this way , would you be passenger in if the pilot learned to fly from reading posts on the web .
Yes I'm against not learning first hand , after all ,I took 6 yrs of being the apprentice , 6 1/2 actually ,and cringe every time I hear someone's reasoning . Well , I drive a truck for a living , well , I'm so and so , well then we see that we can't protect em all . Safety is my only concern , not the quality of work , I've seen too many new to machinery get hurt .
But I guess I'm old school . Yes it can be done doesn't mean it should . We are a self governed practice , I'd like to keep it that way .
I'm glad I'm retired , I'm glad you at least have common sense and are a stickler for safety ( otherwise you wouldn't be here ) . I still recommend finding someone and practice with them for awhile .
Rant over , best of luck and thanks for your service .
Gary

if you read and study you can learn a lot, myself, I was a school dropout, 1978 got my first licence,Master,1000 ton freight and towing, U.S. Merchant Marine, 1983 upgraded
Master, Unlimited, any oceans any waters, been Captain of ships up to 600 ft., look at your 200 yard target,stern to stem, don't tell me someone can,t do something by
working hands on, study the project take your time,

 

[Ggmac]

if you read and study you can learn a lot, myself, I was a school dropout, 1978 got my first licence,Master,1000 ton freight and towing, U.S. Merchant Marine, 1983 upgraded
Master, Unlimited, any oceans any waters, been Captain of ships up to 600 ft., look at your 200 yard target,stern to stem, don't tell me someone can,t do something by
working hands on, study the project take your time,

Did you learn all that on the innerweb ? Hell no ! You learned buy someone showing you HANDS ON . Reread my post .
If you did learn others were learning your trade and using the title you worked your whole life towards In a few months , what would you say ? Good for you , I feel safer now . No , no , we are a self governed profession , limited buy social norms and INSURANCE rates . Yes even after being retired 8 yrs or so , I still maintain liability insurance . It's a must .
Please think about it .

 

[pirate ammo]

Did you learn all that on the innerweb ? Hell no ! You learned buy someone showing you HANDS ON . Reread my post .
If you did learn others were learning your trade and using the title you worked your whole life towards In a few months , what would you say ? Good for you , I feel safer now . No , no , we are a self governed profession , limited buy social norms and INSURANCE rates . Yes even after being retired 8 yrs or so , I still maintain liability insurance . It's a must .
Please think about it .

you have no idea, started at 14 years old, learn in a few months, dock a 600 ft bulk carrier with a few months training don't think so.All that with 6 years U.S. Navy as Hospital Corpsman
getting my axx shot at,,give me a break.

 

[Ggmac]

you have no idea, started at 14 years old, learn in a few months, dock a 600 ft bulk carrier with a few months training don't think so.All that with 6 years U.S. Navy as Hospital Corpsman
getting my axx shot at,,give me a break.

No pissin match , thanks for your service . My point is , you learned with hands on training . Do you really think someone could learn your trade by asking questions on a forum ? I doubt it . You didnt get to this point in life by being stupid . Non of us have , I feel sorry for the young ones , at least the gov subsidized my pay ( to my boss ) allowing the apprentice program

 

[Pwc]

Saw the bottom of a lot of planes after they pulled off after delivering the 'goods'.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Luger works now a pinch too but won't feed or fit in a mag. And I wouldn't try it but That's the point of the mak. Can use anything NATO had but NATO can't use mak ammo because it's slightly wider.

I won't harp on it.

 

[clunker]

This because experience has shown me that noobs will burn up a box of shells without getting zeroed. You have to send them out the door with it printing close for them to have a prayer.

Yep! I have a friend like yours. I'm new to the sport as well, but he needed a lot more help than I did. He thought he was going to instantly be a great shot because of his experience on the Playstation. To make matters worse, the guys who sighted his $350 Vortex scope at a local outdoor store were so far off that he wasn't even hitting paper. I eyeballed it at the range, made him shoot three shots at 25 yds, adjusted his scope, and had him shoot again at 100. Bingo! The last time I was at the same store looking for rings, one of the salesmen offered to mount and sight the scope for me at no charge. I politely declined.