Primer Deactivation

[bobm]

Sorry John O., no harm meant. Just some ribbing and afternoon chuckles. Live primers are relatively harmless packaged in with household trash. No hazard exists when it reaches a landfill. In the extremely rare chance a tractor compactor detonated it no one would know.

You could roast one in a gas grill as mentioned. A "cook off " at a cook out...oops....joking again. Take an empty soup can, place primer inside. Fold over end with pliers or such. Place in grill on high heat. Close lid sit back and listen for a muffled pop. Both anvil and cup will be safely contained in the closed up can. Your neighbors will never know.

 

[John O.]

Sorry John O., no harm meant. Just some ribbing and afternoon chuckles. Live primers are relatively harmless packaged in with household trash. No hazard exists when it reaches a landfill. In the extremely rare chance a tractor compactor detonated it no one would know.

You could roast one in a gas grill as mentioned. A "cook off " at a cook out...oops....joking again. Take an empty soup can, place primer inside. Fold over end with pliers or such. Place in grill on high heat. Close lid sit back and listen for a muffled pop. Both anvil and cup will be safely contained in the closed up can. Your neighbors will never know.

None taken I was just being cautious just in case you were serious. I would hate to retaliate with banter and hurt someones feelings if they were. Thus the request to end the banter.

 

[Dgd6mm]

I had to just go and check the forums for a humor section. We don't have one, why?

 

[Hombre0321]

Very funny thread and a good read. Now if you are asking how to actually deactivate a live primer then I will relate my experience. For years Part of my practice shooting has been to load 2 or 3 dead primers in with my regular ammo load for each 100 rounds. I am a firm believer in what happens before and "After" trigger break. A consistent follow through is just as important to accurate shooting as all the other aspects of this game we choose to play. if you drop the hammer on a dead round, and not know that it is a dead round, if you are having a problem you sure know it real quick.

I purchased 2,000 empty primer cups from Winchester years ago for this purpose. When I finally shot all of those up I tried to purchase some more and with no luck. They or any of the other primer manufacturers would not sell me just the cup. So I set out to kill a few. Well that is not so easy as it turns out. WD 40 does nothing to kill them even soaking them in WD40 for as long as a week wouldn't kill them. Oil would not work. I have tried every concoction I could think of and found nothing that would kill them on a regular basis.

Finally I tried regular Olive Oil and rubbing alcohol mixed with some 409 let this set for a week or 10 days to soak. This alone does not kill the primers, but it does soften the priming compound. I then flip the anvil out and then finally there is no more bang.

There very well may be a easier way to go about this, lord knows I have tried to find an easy way. This was the only method that really worked.

 

[John O.]

I had to just go and check the forums for a humor section. We don't have one, why?

Take your problem to the site moderator. Perhaps he will allow a humor topic provided that we use it tactfully.

 

[John O.]

Very funny thread and a good read. Now if you are asking how to actually deactivate a live primer then I will relate my experience. For years Part of my practice shooting has been to load 2 or 3 dead primers in with my regular ammo load for each 100 rounds. I am a firm believer in what happens before and "After" trigger break. A consistent follow through is just as important to accurate shooting as all the other aspects of this game we choose to play. if you drop the hammer on a dead round, and not know that it is a dead round, if you are having a problem you sure know it real quick.

I purchased 2,000 empty primer cups from Winchester years ago for this purpose. When I finally shot all of those up I tried to purchase some more and with no luck. They or any of the other primer manufacturers would not sell me just the cup. So I set out to kill a few. Well that is not so easy as it turns out. WD 40 does nothing to kill them even soaking them in WD40 for as long as a week wouldn't kill them. Oil would not work. I have tried every concoction I could think of and found nothing that would kill them on a regular basis.

Finally I tried regular Olive Oil and rubbing alcohol mixed with some 409 let this set for a week or 10 days to soak. This alone does not kill the primers, but it does soften the priming compound. I then flip the anvil out and then finally there is no more bang.

There very well may be a easier way to go about this, lord knows I have tried to find an easy way. This was the only method that really worked.

Why don't you use allready shot primers? That way you do not have to waste good primers to see if you have a flinch. Or, are you prone to look at the bases of the primers to see if you loaded them properly? Thus allerting you to the fact that you have a dead primer in the mag.

 

[/VH]

[quote I was hoping for a less noisy way of doing it.

No need to be quiet about it now, you've made enough racket about it on here, 15,000 people already know what you're up to. Drop it down an old well and pitch a lit stick of dynamite in behind it or send it to Hillary or Eric Holder, I'm sure they can make it go away. Check out the attached MSDS but seriously, what city were you raised in?

Maybe if you hide in the bathtub with all the lights out, when the bomb squad shows up at your house, they'll think you got away.

If you decide to swat it with a hammer, there's a high likelihood that small fragments will be leaving the site of the impact at a high rate of speed, so plan accordingly.

MSDS was too big to attach, I'll try to go back and find you a link.

 

[Dgd6mm]

I had to just go and check the forums for a humor section. We don't have one, why?

Take your problem to the site moderator. Perhaps he will allow a humor topic provided that we use it tactfully.

Bury it in your parents back yard.

 

[John O.]

[quote I was hoping for a less noisy way of doing it.

No need to be quiet about it now, you've made enough racket about it on here, 15,000 people already know what you're up to. Drop it down an old well and pitch a lit stick of dynamite in behind it or send it to Hillary or Eric Holder, I'm sure they can make it go away. Check out the attached MSDS but seriously, what city were you raised in?

Maybe if you hide in the bathtub with all the lights out, when the bomb squad shows up at your house, they'll think you got away.

If you decide to swat it with a hammer, there's a high likelihood that small fragments will be leaving the site of the impact at a high rate of speed, so plan accordingly.

MSDS was too big to attach, I'll try to go back and find you a link.

Do I want to know what MSDS means? Perhaps I over estemate the senstivity of my neighbors to bangs. After all I did dispach five skunks in as many nights with a 22lr. Them skunks were in the hen house, a mother and her four offspring.

 

[John O.]

Bury it in your parents back yard.

Umm. No not an option.

 

[John O.]

Since you guys like to banter a lot I'll make a new thread on the main message board for that function. I ask that those who particapate will not sink to insults, crassness, or deragatory remarks to crack a joke. You'll know it when you see it.

 

[/VH]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.sfm.state.or.us/CR2K_SubDB/MSDS/SMOKELESS_PRIMERS.PDF&ved=0CC0QFjADOApqFQoTCOywuO3dmMgCFVMuiAodrbUEng&usg=AFQjCNFDOf8Je73X-UoTpOvTuz_cS7MwCwhttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.sfm.state.or.us/CR2K_SubDB/MSDS/SMOKELESS_PRIMERS.PDF&ved=0CC0QFjADOApqFQoTCOywuO3dmMgCFVMuiAodrbUEng&usg=AFQjCNFDOf8Je73X-UoTpOvTuz_cS7MwCw

Try this for a link, if it doesn't work, basically it said call the manufacturer. Since you don't know who that is, maybe you should call them all.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Billy shot that one fella for hacking on him.

 

[bobm]

MSDS= Material Safety Data Sheet. Our all knowing government forces all manufacturers of hazardous chemicals and compounds to provide a sheet spelling out health hazards, re activity, flammability and stuff like that. I think I read that primers should not be struck with hammers, ever. Unless wearing safety glasses.

 

[rvn1968]

MSDS sheets are available for almost everything. You can write the manufacturer of your bar of soap and request the sheet and they are supposed to provide it at no cost. No joke,although this thread almost demands one. Tom

 

[Changeling]

Take them to a local park and feed them to a flock of pigeons 8).

 

[John O.]

Take them to a local park and feed them to a flock of pigeons 8).

Then People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals would come after me like the dentist who shot the lion. I can't have bomb threats being called in, or a mountain of stuffed pigeons on my front porch. I can't afford to disappear for several months. I would flunk my college classes, and likely ruin any chance of getting a job in the future.

 

[bobm]

It would probably pass through a pigeon and still be functional. Then some little kid would find it. " Look Mommy, what is this little silver thing?" ;D

 

[John O.]

How did you know it was silver in color? You hale from Colorado. Are you taking a vacation down here?

 

[savagedasher]

I would put it in with the rest of the spent primers. And send it to the dump. ;D ;D ;D Hillary would say WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE. ;D ;D ;D ;D Larry