Präzipress vs. Area 419 Turret Press

[Area51]

Just had to go there didn't you....
The paint node is real!!

As well as the micro polished barrel crown. Tuned to perfection and easy to maintain.

 

[ELR LVR]

rodomontading

That sounds naughty

 

[ELR LVR]

Just had to go there didn't you....
The paint node is real!!

I admit I have guns that if I can't always do good,
I at least look good doing it

 

[ebb]

^^^^^^^So are you saying if you can't load for shit get a Prazi press and at least look good doing it?

 

[ebb]

What about me I can't load and can't afford a Prazi press either?

 

[ELR LVR]

^^^^^^^So are you saying if you can't load for shit get a Prazi press and at least look good doing it?

Yes, thats exactly what I am saying
Your friends will look at their equipment compared to yours and wont even wanna compete you will look so out of their realm cool...... you will win by default

 

[Jeff3680]

I use a RCBS Summit and have loaded some screamer shells. Plenty of room for my big fat fingers …

 

[Shooter13]

I can tell you this with all the BS going on, be careful about ordering things from certain countries. SEB X BR rest had $100 plus tariff, Prazzi (Germany) about 5X that.

 

[Shooter13]

Happeee happeeee, on the way.
What a bargain. Record time.

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
we calculate here under your order as follows:
Item Description Quantity Unit price Total price
1. Reloading press Heavy Präzipress 120
14 days right to return , 2
years warranty
1.00 piece
2. Shipping Zone 5 USA/Canada 1.00 piece
Export 0% 0.00 EUR
Total gross
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There are tariff fees! HUGH tariff fees as you know!

 

[Shooter13]

^^^^^^^So are you saying if you can't load for shit get a Prazi press and at least look good doing it?

Exactly!

 

[GetReal]

LE Wilson seater dies are mostest bestest. By far.

 

[Area51]

You rarely get what you pay for these days.
Never more than you pay for.
The Turban Prazi Press is that rare exception on the high side.


You decide.

Präzipress 120mm Heavy Reloading Press — German Precision « Daily Bulletin

When is a single-stage reloading press worth close to a thousand bucks? When it's made in Germany with CNC technology and crafted to aero-space precision standards. UltimateReloader.com's Gavin Gear recently got his hands on a <a href=https://turban-shop.

bulletin.accurateshooter.com

 

[Killick]

This video reinforced my choice to stay with my RCBS Supreme.

 

[ShaunW]

The hilarious part of our sport is a person can be allowed to have the nicest of stocks, barrels, optics, triggers, but when it comes to presses NOPE!!

You are not allowed to admit that you like a high end press without attacks on your manhood, your reloading abilities, etc..

 

[Killick]

This video reinforced my choice to stay with my RCBS Supreme.

Here's the article with ALL the data.

Fourteen Reloading Presses Compared: Single-Stage Shootout – Ultimate Reloader

ultimatereloader.com

 

[R&B]

Prazi vs. 419

Prazi
The Prazi press requires changing dies.
Is generally more accurate and stable.
Easier to use.
Not as hunky gangly large, even the big Prazi is more compact.
Price vs quality and build is outstanding.
Takes the larger dia dies, 419, etc.

419
Rotary die holder, very convenient, easy to set up.
Expensive, dies and press as well as extra rotary plates.
Storage of die plates may be an issue.
Everything is big.

Setting up x2 Prazi presses, may sell the 419 press only and go with the Prazis, a couple months out will know better.
Bigger cases, the Prazi is the way to go. Magnums and longer cases. Tons of leverage and ease of use. Will know better a few months out.
Ordering a third Prazi now.

Update.
It flashed on me while loading some 308 match rounds a few minutes ago.
I cant beleive i over looked this critical press.
The all time greatest, even today is the Forster CoAx.
The Turban is an elitist press, ill agree and offer up, a work of machining art.
The CoAx will do everything as well a few convenience items better.
I use mine for seating only with Newlon custom seating dies.
It just does not get any better ROI or BFB.

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Co-Ax Press, supplied with “S” jaws. No need to complicate the reloading process. Our Co-Ax Press keeps it simple while still delivering famous Forster precisio

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If you don't have a destination any road will get you there.

I sell sporting stuff to people for a living. I don't try to sell anyone anything. What I try to do is help them make an informed decision. For many newbies this can be overwhelming due to all the social media marketing influences. Social media marketing sometimes starts their minds down the tendency to view things through a distorted lens.

Questions I always ask our customers:

1. What is your budget?
2. What is your expectation from purchasing said product?
3. What issues or problems are you trying to solve; if any?

I let them know right away that most of the decisions they make are going to be subjective ones (personal preference). I also try to let them know you will need real world hands on experience to be able to develop these subjective preferences. Most people want the short cut. Most think in terms of all or nothing; this can be a disappointing road to take. "Buy Once Cry Once" is something I hear quite often and it is not always true. People do not understand the concept of diminishing returns and so then the depression sets in. This is due to the expensive piece of equipment didn't meet their unrealistic expectations.

One size does not fit all and that's what makes life so wonderful.

Happy New Year!

-R&B

 

[R&B]

-R&B

 

[neckturner]

Here's the article with ALL the data.

Here's the summary document:

"Average Ram Slop" isn't relevant - it's an input metric, not an output metric. Length AVG (aka COAL) is meaningless, as it includes bullet tip variances - not related to press performance. Base to Ogive is similar, as the die seater may measure the ogive at a different spot from the ogive measurement tool, so bullet variation is in play.

Sample size of five cartridges strikes me as inadequate to draw many conclusions.

But one conclusion we can draw is that you don't need to spend many hundreds for good reloads. That money will, however, reduce Average Ram Slop (given that the press sample size is one) and provide better finish.

For me, a press is judged by features (e.g., peak sizing force, primer management, grease fittings) and ease of use.

But I would like a Prazipress on the bench to impress visitors

 

[JFrank]

What tools would a reloader use to measure press accuracy past 100/000 ?

 

[neckturner]

What tools would a reloader use to measure press accuracy past 100/000 ?

Do you mean the overprecision in the diagram? Someone didn't teach UR about rounding. I would have rounded to the nearest .0001.