PPU Ammo with Weird Primers

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I started re loading my .22 Jet brass and the primer body stays in the pocket. De capping pin punches out the top of the primer and the anvil, but leaves the circumference of the primer in the pocket. Any ideas on how to salvage the casing?

 

[fkimble@charter.net]

Sounds like the brass got wet and then sat around for a good period, allowing the two pieces to corrode together.

Frank

 

[358WCF]

I started re loading my .22 Jet brass and the primer body stays in the pocket. De capping pin punches out the top of the primer and the anvil, but leaves the circumference of the primer in the pocket. Any ideas on how to salvage the casing?

Maybe try making a one sided (half round) chisel tip on a small punch to gently tap between case & primer. Hopefully primer material will move before the case gets boogered.

 

[rockrat]

Bought some 32 mag brass that was like that

 

[Toolbreaker]

A small primer should have enough meat in the ID to allow an 8-32 tap to cut into the primer cup to press the old cup out, but the threads would be a little shallow & not real strong. It's worth a shot though if you have several cases like this.

 

[divingin]

If you have a handheld pocket reamer (for cutting out military crimps) it should make pretty quick work of it. Maybe. Otherwise a prick punch to separate the wall of the primer cup from the pocket and then a small screwdriver to pry it out?

 

[ronemus]

A uniformer would be a good bet - it could cut out the remainder and leave the pocket relatively untouched, or it might grab it and torque it out; if used in a neck trimmer-type jig it could be done under power and be quick.

 

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Does anyone know how to contact a factory rep from PPU?

 

[Oso]

It may be an issue of a military primer that is staked or lacquered/sealant used. Is there any color (red, blue, black most common colors) around the outside of the primer showing?

I know for me when I am punching out the base of the primer and the sides stay in this is result of a primer being intentionally made to hold that tightly to withstand military pressure and also to ensure impervious to water. I usually see it on Eastern Block 5.56 brass with the give-away being the colored lacquer either coating the entire primer or just a ring around the outside of the primer. When I see that now I just throw it in recycle bin.

I don't recall PPU usually being one of these culprits, but maybe they did something different.

 

[Hoser]

If you value your time and sanity, just order new brass.

I found some PRVI 22 Jet a few months ago at Graffs.

 

[divingin]

Does anyone know how to contact a factory rep from PPU?

PPU is Prvi PartizanEastern European, as I recall. Serbian, I believe.

You're likely not going to get hold of a rep; even less likely to get one that speaks English.

 

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I bought 8 boxes of this stuff, cause it was on the shelf. Don't know if Sportsman's will take it back.

Did not see any lacquer on the primers.

 

[Papa Charlie]

Generally, you cannot return ammunition.

 

[MislMan]

Maybe try a hand-held chamfering tool or properly sized drill bit. Just something to get a little bite on the inside surface of the primer to twist it out.

 

[PigButtons]

I don't know what kind of press you have but if you have a single stage unit bolted to a solid surface, you could take your FL sizing die and run it in from the bottom instead of the top with the decapping pin/neck expander removed. That will let you drop the case into the die with the primer pocket facing up and the case will be stable and supported. Then take a strong dental pick and push it between the case and the primer wall. Primers are intentionally made of pliable brass and it should deform quite easily. Once you get it started it should collapse and pull right out.

 

[Rsadams]

Most .223 ppu is crimped primer brass... I know you're talking about a different caliber but that couldn't be the problem could it...????

 

[ebb]

Some on this forum have in the past called this a ringer. I have had the same thing happen on several occasions with Winchester brass. I tried every thing I could think of to save the ones I had cause I wanted a whole box of 100. The only thing I found that was successful was the primer pocket uniformer, and it is not 100 %.

 

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Contacted their customer support and they said "sorry, can not help you".

 

[DiffEQ]

I don't know what kind of press you have but if you have a single stage unit bolted to a solid surface, you could take your FL sizing die and run it in from the bottom instead of the top with the decapping pin/neck expander removed. That will let you drop the case into the die with the primer pocket facing up and the case will be stable and supported. Then take a strong dental pick and push it between the case and the primer wall. Primers are intentionally made of pliable brass and it should deform quite easily. Once you get it started it should collapse and pull right out.

BTDT - the time you'll spend on each case!
The only thing I didn't try was a bottoming tap to get a grip inside the cup and pull.
If I see this, I toss.
Life's too short to spend fixing primer holes or chewing tough steak.

 

[MGYSGT]

Wow, in 55 years of reloading, I have never had a primer top rip off during resizing. Odd.