Parker-Hale cleaning jag

[Joe R]

Hi Guys,
I use a Parker-Hale jag to clean my rifles. I also use Bore-Tech Eliminator. Together they do a great job of cleaning my barrel. The only minor issue that I have is that the jag, being brass, bleeds blue on the cotton patch. I would like to see blue only from the jacket copper not the jag.

I was wondering if anyone knows of similar jag made of aluminum or other non-reactive metal?

Regards,

Joe

 

[Chuckhunter]

Check out the Bore Tech website they have the Proof Positive Jags and I believe they come in male threads,

http://www.boretech.com/products/proof-positive-rifle-jag A quick call should answer all you questions.

 

[ebb]

I also use a Parker-Hale and would like to know the answer to this also. I have considered having my jags nickel platted. I use the Dewey jags and I cant seem to find all the sizes. Does anyone else make P-H jags?

 

[Cloudrepair]

I also use a Parker-Hale and would like to know the answer to this also. I have considered having my jags nickel platted. I use the Dewey jags and I cant seem to find all the sizes. Does anyone else make P-H jags?

I would not put anything Nickel plated in any rifle barrel.
Nickel is harder than the barrel and will most likely trash the barrel.
I'm interested in an alternative to brass also.

 

[ebb]

Well according to the Rockwell "B" scale, yellow brass that most jags are made of is 55, nickel is 60 , and 304 stainless steel is 80. While the nickel plated jag is harder than the brass jag the amount of hardness is insignificant. But I understand your concerns, that is the reason I use a Parker-Hale jag. The patch is wrapped around the jag twice and fits the bore tightly. The jag never comes in contact with the bore. I conventional jag probably doesn't either, but it doesn't have two layers of patch between the jag and bore. While it is a pain in the @## to get the patch size right, I feel it is worth the trouble to insure that my barrel is not scarred with a jag. I often have to cut patches to get the tightness just right. That was the reason I made the comment about jag sizes, Dewey doesn't seem to make one for 6.5 mm so when I clean my 6.5s the patch may go 2.5 times around the jag. I've worn out (it didn't take long) nylon jags (they were the spear style) and I don't think that is an option, I've never seen aluminum P-H jags. So I was thinking I could have my P-H jags nickel plated, chrome is hard and I won't even consider that. I was amassed that anybody here used a P-H jag and understood the problem, I am sure it is an OLD school kinda thing.

 

[Joe R]

While it is a pain in the @## to get the patch size right, I feel it is worth the trouble to insure that my barrel is not scarred with a jag. I often have to cut patches to get the tightness just right.

You probably already know this so please ignore it, but to get nice fitting patches with P-H jag I use 3 inch shotgun patches and then cut them in half. They are just the right size for a tight fit in a 6.5mm bore ( I just finished cleaning mine) if you use a 6mm jag. I also use them for my 7mm and 308 with the appropriate jags. I buy them a thousand at the time.

Regards,

Joe

 

[Brians356]

I like the P-H jags for most tasks, but in particular they are better for applying Corbin or other abrasive rouge than an undersized brush for wrapping the patch around to short-stroke. Much firmer support for the patch, and no bristles poking through.
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[Hippy]

I use the 22 rod with 1 3/4 " wrapped for 22 speared for 6mm
270 rod wrapped with same patch for 270 -speared for 30 cal

Been doing this since the late 70's

1 3/4 cut in half works prefect on 17 cal rod Dewey for 20 caliber

Jim

 

[Brians356]

Check out the Bore Tech website they have the Proof Positive Jags and I believe they come in male threads,

http://www.boretech.com/products/proof-positive-rifle-jag A quick call should answer all you questions.

Those are nice, but don't hook the patch like the P-H does. I like to wrap the patch around the jag like paper towels around a cardboard tube, rather than simply put the point of the jag in the center of the patch and let it fold back when forced into the bore guide. The latter is fine for quickly pushing most of the loose muck out with wet patches, but then I switch to the wrapped P-H for applying syrupy stuff like Patch-Out, or anything that needs short-stroked.
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[DRNewcomb]

P-H jags are designed for UK-style patches, which are rectangular flannelette. The patch is wrapped around the jag, providing a large area of consistent patch contact along the bore. When I used a P-H rod I would either cut a US military flannel patch in half and wrap it diagonally around the jag or use a .270 jag in a .30 cal barrel because the US patches are much thicker than the UK type.

I would also like to find a source of P-H style steel jags for US steel rods.

 

[ebb]

Joe R please explain the thing on the end of the barrel, is that to keep the jag from exiting the crown? Ive heard of many ways to do that. My friend pushes the barrel up against the plywood wall in the shop, I use a piece of tubing the right length to hit the bore guide and stop the rod .

 

[Brians356]

P-H jags are designed for UK-style patches, which are rectangular flannelette. The patch is wrapped around the jag, providing a large area of consistent patch contact along the bore.

I just buy square Pro-Shot flannel patches in sizes that work with the P-H jags in various caliber. They are pricey, though.
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[Joe R]

Joe R please explain the thing on the end of the barrel, is that to keep the jag from exiting the crown? Ive heard of many ways to do that. My friend pushes the barrel up against the plywood wall in the shop, I use a piece of tubing the right length to hit the bore guide and stop the rod .

ebb,
You are correct. Its just a piece of garden hose to keep the jag from exiting the crown. Because the jag eventually damages the rubber hose I put some washers and a nut and bolt to hold it in place. I leave a gap between the crown and the hose so that any solvent dripping out of the muzzle can freely drop onto the newspaper. The rubber hose is held in place by a clamp.

The way the rubber wraps itself around the barrel it gives it lots of traction and the clamp holds it there very firmly. It works with a straight 1 1/4 barrel or with my 308 tapers. Not very fancy looking, I know.


Kindest regards,


Joe

 

[DRNewcomb]

I just buy square Pro-Shot flannel patches in sizes that work with the P-H jags in various caliber. They are pricey, though.
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I still have several thousand of the thick flannel 2"x 2" GI patches I got from the DCM back in the '80s. The only patches I ever buy are the little 1" circles for .22. At least for .30 cal, I like my jags to work with the patches I have.

 

[Martin52]

I was wondering if anyone knows of similar jag made of aluminum or other non-reactive metal?

Regards,

Joe

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You might like these Joe:

http://www.boreriderbarrelcareproducts.com

 

[rardoin]

Joe, I like the P-H jags also and have not been able to find any made of any 'non-reactive' metal as of yet. I bought some pointed aluminum jags to use as a copper check.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Just in case anyone is looking for Parker-Hale jags and possible Rods ??

OK Weber INC. in Springfield Oregon

 

[Down South]

I use Boretech jags.

 

[JRS]

I don't recall the persons name, but he was producing a polymer jag referred to as a Bore Rider jag.

 

[Mr Underbridge]

Would it be too much hassle to clean up the jag and sorta wax it like a car? so get some decent seal on it?