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[snert]

It might be ok. Probably worth doing the mystery oil again in all 8 cylinders. Then try turning it with a breaker bar after a few days. Change the oil and prime the pump. Adjust the valves if needed and possible. Fire it. 350 Pontiacs make lots of torque. I distinctly remember the tire spin of my buddy's '74 4spd GTO that he would let me drive.

Someday. Right now I am up to my armpits in attic insulation...having missed a joist with my feet. I never considered a window in the ceiling of my dining room before.

 

[tcmikey]

I remember my dad's leg dangling from the garage ceiling when I was about 7 or 8. He was either getting Christmas decorations or putting them away.

 

[snert]

So funny story...same dining room, 40 years ago. My dad was an amputee. Had two wood legs, knee down. He was in the attic fixing something. Suddenly his foot comes thru ceiling in dining room, followed by numerous loud blue words. (about 6 feet from where I just came thru BTW). After about five yanks it becomes obvious he can't get his foot back up thru. So he yells to me and tells me to grab his shoe and pull. I did and his wooden leg pops off and down thru the ceiling it comes. Then I hear him say "just bring the damn thing up here to me and I'll put it back on". I still smile thinking about it.

 

[fredo]

Man, sound like it’be fun to just get that 350 to turn over & sputter!
There are several of cheap-O ‘bore scopes’ available that plug into a USB port. You can pull the plugs & see what each hole looks like. Your Father soaking the the bores with Marvel was good idea! Hopefully enough residue stayed above the rings to keep condensation at bay...
But, even if ya don’t look in with a scope, you can funnel in some cheap ATF into each plug hole, and let er soak a day or so. Then, slap a breaker bar on the crank bolt and see if she wants to rotate...
Bet it will, cuz your Father was smart.
Prepare for the excess ATF to burble back out as she rotates, LOL!

If the plug wires look ok, maybe the old distributor will spark off? If not, points kit is cheap & easy...

Pull the fuel line off the carb and run it into a bucket. Starter fluid spritz in carb & see if she’ll turn over, and let the pump pull any old fuel from the tank/lines.

Or, just yank that ol’ buoy weight & and get after the 400.
Had another funny option cross my warped mind.
Swap in a (Toyota inline 6cyl) 2jz-GTE w/ big single snail and associated engine management software to tune injectors & turbo. Heck, you could make 600+hp on a stock bottom end, EASY. And, you could call it the “SPLINT-6”... LMAO

Just spitballin’, for grins! Wish I were closer, I can turn a wrench & break bolts with the best of ‘em!
Have fun, dude. Chuck season is almost here...

 

[justinp61]

I say build it big (the Poncho) and don’t look back. Life is to short to own a slow car! Here’s my 69 Dart, 434” small block, 703 hp on pump 93. It’s been 6.25 @ 110 in the 1/8, isn’t cantankerous, doesn’t get hot and fun to drive. Yes it scares senior adults, children and millennials. It is pretty raunchy.

 

[Lennyboy]

A few years back, ok ,a lot of years back I was running a 69 ragtop bird with the 400. A bit light in the rear end ,shifting into 4th pinned, it would lay rubber and wanted to go sideways. Then in the 90's had a white 305 HP bird that was a stiff ride, but would hold a corner like it was on rails. Hey we ain't getting old are we?

 

[snert]

I say build it big (the Poncho) and don’t look back. Life is to short to own a slow car! Here’s my 69 Dart, 434” small block, 703 hp on pump 93. It’s been 6.25 @ 110 in the 1/8, isn’t cantankerous, doesn’t get hot and fun to drive. Yes it scares senior adults, children and millennials. It is pretty raunchy.

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While mine will never see a track, i have to say I appreciate THAT!

Makes me wish I kept the barracuda...

 

[yotehater]

Yep, a mild 455 would be righteous. My first car was a red on red '67 Firebird I bought in 1976 with hay hauling money. Originally, it came with the ohc 6 but someone had already put a Poncho 350 in it by then. Still had the 3 on the tree until I put a Hurst floor shifter in. Later on I put a SBC and a T400 in it for more power. I sure miss that old 'bird. Hang on to yours.

edit, lol was gonna comment that I ordered a new 17 mach4 tube from Pac-nor last week and they are about 6 months behind.

 

[snert]

I decided 400 only because 400 blocks are easier to find than 455.

 

[justinp61]

Them 455's were torque monsters, burnouts days long. LOL

A quick video of mine while doing some shock tuning.

To keep this a little bit out of the ditch I ordered Savage pre fit 1-9" twist Shilen SS Select Match 260 barrel on 3/5 from Northland. I have everything ready to screw it together when it arrives.

 

[tcmikey]

If this thread was 10 years or so older I'd probably be selling you a mild pump gas 455 for about $750.

 

[snert]

If this thread was 10 years or so older I'd probably be selling you a mild pump gas 455 for about $750.

And I would be all over it.


on to a little update about 20 VT brass. I ordered brass from High Palins and after payment, it went south. Not sure yet what is going on, but PP is in process of "investigating". I hope to recover my $

I did get some nice 221 brass made from 223 by Sleeping Giant. Good product, timely shipping and I am happy, so shout out to Sleeping Giant. Now its time to neck it down and neck turn it....

Saturday I hope to sight in my Swift, my Mo'Better 6x50 and my 17FB for groundhogs, cause I just changed scopes around.

 

[357Mag]

While mine will never see a track, i have to say I appreciate THAT!

Makes me wish I kept the barracuda...

Snert -

Howdy !

What Barracuda ??

I had a '67 fastback 273 " Formula S ". It bought it from the guy that had bough it off my Sister ( she originally bought it brand new ), and it was only 4 y.o. when I got it. Spent the hole day prior to my first day of class as a HS Junior hand polishing the haze out of the " Scorch Red " paint. My sister had ordered the white interior ( !!! ), and it had the A727 auto trans.

Had the car 14 month when I stopped on HWY 24 to make a left turn into my buddies house; next door.
Was rear ended by a drunk in a Chevy pickup doin' 60+....... he never even tapped the brakes.
Loudest sound I ever heard, to date . The only skid marks came from my car, as I was on the brakes when he hit. Went across both lanes of the highway, down a steep embankment of the old Erie Canal; and the car reversed direction on the way down into the water. There was about 1' of snow on the unmowed canal bank grass.

Hit the water, and found that I didn't need to turn off the engine, as it had sized when everything shifted fwd.
Undid my seat belt, and immediately fell backwards into the bottom of the rear seat. When the impact occured, I had one arm braced on the steering wheel, and my straight arm had transfered the impact to my driver's seat 3/8" mount bolts ( 4e ); and they had sheared completely off.

Thought I saw smoke, and became concerned when I could not open my driver's door. Both side windows were intact, with about 6" of open air showing above the top of both side glass windows. The "A" and "C" pillars had all been shifted fwd. Figured out the smoke was actually steam from the hot engine/exhaust sitting in the canal water.

Turned to exit via the rear window, and was surprised when I found neither the window, no shattered glass.

Standing in the rear window opening, it was evident the car's trunk had been completely compacted right up to the base of the rear window. I looked and tried to hale my father, who just happened to be driving by in his grain truck. He did not hear me, but my friend's relatives had heard the impact; and had phone it in.

Made it to the berm of the road, to see one of the truck' occupants lying on the road, w/ a pile of empty bear bottles strewn out across their lane. It appeared that when the truck hit me, it had stopped right where impact took plac;, with the energy transfer launching my car into the ditch..... similar to those round balls on a string desk top gizzmos work.

The Trooper showed up, and said he would charge the driver w/ D.W.I., if i would point him out. I did not know which of the 2 guys from the truck was actually the driver, and I did not have the necessary wherewithall at the time; to take a 50/50 guess. Found my car's huge rear backlight glass 75yd down the road.... upside down.... but not broken !

A few feet away from the rear glass, I found the gas tank and filler neck completely intact; and not leaking at all. I had just filled it an hour or so before the accident. On the '67 Cuda, the gas tank sits ahead of a spar tire well, that occupies the space immediately below the trunk floor. My strained arm began to hurt more, as did my Rt knee, which had dented the bottom metal of the dash. I sometimes wondered whether a partial fill of the tank might not have contributed to an explosion/fire; had the tank not been full ?

As it turned out, my strained arm was so week, I could not pull the paper off a McDonald's straw.
It was some weeks before I was able to make a left turn w/o sweating, as I viewed drivers closing on me from the rear.

I always thought the '67 - 68 - 69 fast back to be sexy body shape. I myself much prefer the '67's tail light and backup light arrangement. Felt so bad about my loss of that car, that I bought a '67 fastback carcass, and spent $10,000 in 1975 - 1980 dollars, collecting OEM parts to make ( in-essence ) a brand new zero-time '67 Formula S. I went w/ a 273 again, this time with the stock AFB sitting atop an Edelbrock LD-4B intake ( could just barely close the stock hood ). I found a correct " C " code block. A machine shop just down the road bored it to 277 c.i.d., and I put on a Lakewood bell housing to mount my A833 4 speed. I also used a center console. I used the .373 ratio in the MOPAR 8 3/4" rear end, along w/ a " power-lok " third member. My intent was to use the car as a high speed cruiser. The AFB used weighted secondaries, and when loafing along @ 60mph, gas is emmited into ony 2 of the 4 barrel's venturies; via rectangular slits in the carb's side walls.

I had a guy who used to grind cams for MOPAR, grind me the stock 4 speed profile. Could not source original 10.5-to-1 factory pistons, but the machine shop ( amazingly ) had a set of TRW 10.5-to-1 replacement pistons just sitting there. I chose to use a 3/4 race Hydraulic valve train set up intended for use in a 340 application, in-lieu of the standard mechanical valve train. I did not install " air ", so the car had a single belt. Manual brakes.... manual steering.... manual trans...... manual windows and locks.

Put in a Borg-Warner tach in the stock location ( it fit w/ a small masage to the outer diam of the mount hole's pot metal. ) I went w/ the factory single exhaust, that had a resonator, muffler ; and really cool rectangular & chromed exhaust tip. Also went w/ the fast ration manual steering ob, and manual brakes all-around, along w/ 14" wheels and custom ( get this ) tires w/ " Redline "
sidewalls.

Neighbor that ran a body shop and was always doing custom rods did my paint, in his garage right across the Hwy from our house. I chose to go w/ Scorch Red, again.... but; with an all black interior. Car turned out so good, that it was basically too nice for me to use as a daily driver. About 1yr after completing the car,
I got married. Had 2 kids within 22mo, and the idled Cuda became their college fund. Sold it to the head of the parts dept @ the MOPAR dealership where I had bought all the zillions of parts. Got a good price for it, as the dude fer sher knew how much had been invested in the auto.


With regards,
357Mag

 

[snert]

Snert -

Howdy !

What Barracuda ??

I had a '67 fastback 273 " Formula S ". It bought it from the guy that had bough it off my Sister ( she originally bought it brand new ), and it was only 4 y.o. when I got it. Spent the hole day prior to my first day of class as a HS Junior hand polishing the haze out of the " Scorch Red " paint. My sister had ordered the white interior ( !!! ), and it had the A727 auto trans.

Had the car 14 month when I stopped on HWY 24 to make a left turn into my buddies house; next door.
Was rear ended by a drunk in a Chevy pickup doin' 60+....... he never even tapped the brakes.
Loudest sound I ever heard, to date . The only skid marks came from my car, as I was on the brakes when he hit. Went across both lanes of the highway, down a steep embankment of the old Erie Canal; and the car reversed direction on the way down into the water. There was about 1' of snow on the unmowed canal bank grass.

Hit the water, and found that I didn't need to turn off the engine, as it had sized when everything shifted fwd.
Undid my seat belt, and immediately fell backwards into the bottom of the rear seat. When the impact occured, I had one arm braced on the steering wheel, and my straight arm had transfered the impact to my driver's seat 3/8" mount bolts ( 4e ); and they had sheared completely off.

Thought I saw smoke, and became concerned when I could not open my driver's door. Both side windows were intact, with about 6" of open air showing above the top of both side glass windows. The "A" and "C" pillars had all been shifted fwd. Figured out the smoke was actually steam from the hot engine/exhaust sitting in the canal water.

Turned to exit via the rear window, and was surprised when I found neither the window, no shattered glass.

Standing in the rear window opening, it was evident the car's trunk had been completely compacted right up to the base of the rear window. I looked and tried to hale my father, who just happened to be driving by in his grain truck. He did not hear me, but my friend's relatives had heard the impact; and had phone it in.

Made it to the berm of the road, to see one of the truck' occupants lying on the road, w/ a pile of empty bear bottles strewn out across their lane. It appeared that when the truck hit me, it had stopped right where impact took plac;, with the energy transfer launching my car into the ditch..... similar to those round balls on a string desk top gizzmos work.

The Trooper showed up, and said he would charge the driver w/ D.W.I., if i would point him out. I did not know which of the 2 guys from the truck was actually the driver, and I did not have the necessary wherewithall at the time; to take a 50/50 guess. Found my car's huge rear backlight glass 75yd down the road.... upside down.... but not broken !

A few feet away from the rear glass, I found the gas tank and filler neck completely intact; and not leaking at all. I had just filled it an hour or so before the accident. On the '67 Cuda, the gas tank sits ahead of a spar tire well, that occupies the space immediately below the trunk floor. My strained arm began to hurt more, as did my Rt knee, which had dented the bottom metal of the dash. I sometimes wondered whether a partial fill of the tank might not have contributed to an explosion/fire; had the tank not been full ?

As it turned out, my strained arm was so week, I could not pull the paper off a McDonald's straw.
It was some weeks before I was able to make a left turn w/o sweating, as I viewed drivers closing on me from the rear.

I always thought the '67 - 68 - 69 fast back to be sexy body shape. I myself much prefer the '67's tail light and backup light arrangement. Felt so bad about my loss of that car, that I bought a '67 fastback carcass, and spent $10,000 in 1975 - 1980 dollars, collecting OEM parts to make ( in-essence ) a brand new zero-time '67 Formula S. I went w/ a 273 again, this time with the stock AFB sitting atop an Edelbrock LD-4B intake ( could just barely close the stock hood ). I found a correct " C " code block. A machine shop just down the road bored it to 277 c.i.d., and I put on a Lakewood bell housing to mount my A833 4 speed. I also used a center console. I used the .373 ratio in the MOPAR 8 3/4" rear end, along w/ a " power-lok " third member. My intent was to use the car as a high speed cruiser. The AFB used weighted secondaries, and when loafing along @ 60mph, gas is emmited into ony 2 of the 4 barrel's venturies; via rectangular slits in the carb's side walls.

I had a guy who used to grind cams for MOPAR, grind me the stock 4 speed profile. Could not source original 10.5-to-1 factory pistons, but the machine shop ( amazingly ) had a set of TRW 10.5-to-1 replacement pistons just sitting there. I chose to use a 3/4 race Hydraulic valve train set up intended for use in a 340 application, in-lieu of the standard mechanical valve train. I did not install " air ", so the car had a single belt. Manual brakes.... manual steering.... manual trans...... manual windows and locks.

Put in a Borg-Warner tach in the stock location ( it fit w/ a small masage to the outer diam of the mount hole's pot metal. ) I went w/ the factory single exhaust, that had a resonator, muffler ; and really cool rectangular & chromed exhaust tip. Also went w/ the fast ration manual steering ob, and manual brakes all-around, along w/ 14" wheels and custom ( get this ) tires w/ " Redline "
sidewalls.

Neighbor that ran a body shop and was always doing custom rods did my paint, in his garage right across the Hwy from our house. I chose to go w/ Scorch Red, again.... but; with an all black interior. Car turned out so good, that it was basically too nice for me to use as a daily driver. About 1yr after completing the car,
I got married. Had 2 kids within 22mo, and the idled Cuda became their college fund. Sold it to the head of the parts dept @ the MOPAR dealership where I had bought all the zillions of parts. Got a good price for it, as the dude fer sher knew how much had been invested in the auto.


With regards,
357Mag

I bought a 1972 Barracuda 318 in plum with a white vinyl top (which actually ripped and shredded on Rt80 inCentral PA on a road trip, flapping like a sail before I tore it all off) as a winter rat so I could drive at college while the Firebird was in storage in winter. My dad used a stop sign to replace the hole in the trunk, and my uncle welded in a piece of I beam to serve as the missing two feet of frame below it, so we could mount the rear spring...
The ball joints had no cup on top and no balls...so that first trip from NYC to Pittsburgh was interesting...it stayed between the lines only if I held only my thumb on the steering wheel at my belt-line.

I eventually fixed a bunch of issues and drove it three years. Turned out to be darned reliable transportation, but when the heater core pooped out in Central NY which has 9 months of snow, I sold it, for $650 in 1990. The kid who bought it killed it in two weeks.

I still kick myself for selling it. I wish I had just stuffed it in a garage. Now I could fix it and drive it...so many parts being repopped.

I loved that body style.

 

[357Mag]

Snert -

Howdy ! Nice to hear from you !

MOPAR -
While I was driving my older sister's former '67 Barracuda fastback, she was runnin' her brand new '70
340 'Cuda w/ auto trans & air. It was " Sub Lime " w/ a black vinyl top & black interior. She drove that thing a long time.

After my '67 got totaled, I took the payment form the drunk driver's insurance, and $$$ a brand new
'73 Challenger w/ a 318 auto ( no air ). It was Red w/ black pin stripes, and black interior.
The "E" body had a l-o-n-g hood compared to the "A" body '67 Cuda I was used to. The '73 also has the
new-wave 5mph impact bumpers + the rubber front bumper-ettes. The hood seemed like a baby grand in length. The 318 was just a bread & butter V-8, and probably MOPAR's most produced engine after their
" Slant 6 ". The 2bbl 318 had anemic performance compared to the 273cid 235hp " Commando V-8 " that was in the '67. But, I could not afford the insurance to have a 340 in my Challenger, so I got the 318.
Apparently, my sister was given a better insurance rate; due to my being " hormonally challenged "......
at least that was the excuse the insurance guy's gave.

I ended up driving the '73 Challenger 8 1/2yr, and finally sold it when the trans went out for a second time.
I did all my own mechanical work, but drew the line @ re-building trasmissions. Did receive instruction on how to do it a couple years later, from a guy that built them @ the factory. To bad I did not find out sooner, as I could have held on to the Challenger longer. They were still spraying them w/ enamel back then, and I was forever waxing the Challenger to ward off haze in the paint.

The Challenger had a minimal trunk space, while in the '67 fastback Barracuda..... you could lay the back seat down flat + open a back panel into the trunk; that gave you 6' + of lay down space. Cool beans !
My follow-on '73 and '75 Dodge Dart " Sports " were also "A"-bodies; and also had the lay-down feature; as did my wife's 2001 Intrepid.


With regards,
357Mag