Oh dang! - Labradar LX - Small form factor

[DRK]

I think you meant 60 Gigahertz.

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Yes, typo when I was typing on the bus in a hurry.

 

[Big_Daddy]

Sounds like, shared software, probably same internals. Just visual branding differences. Sort of like all NASCAR look the same except for the colors.

Except that the Garmin works all of the time.
I am highly skeptical that LabRadar designed the software....good marketing line however.

FYI...I have been using LabRadar since they first came out.
I have 100's of hours using it.
Mine had very few issues however something better came along and I replaced the LR.

 

[neckturner]

There are two velocity measurements, one at muzzle, one at 5 yds.

That doesn't give us much of a shot at BC But it will satisfy the bulk of the market.

 

[Rocketvapor]

I'm thinking, if it does two measurements, the muzzle measurement is to set coefficients of the internal calculator just to calculate the 5 yard velocity. The device doesn't know what to measure over a wide velocity range until it measures.
Not for BC.
The 60GHZ radar signal has probably got a much narrower antenna beam than the Garmin.

 

[hoz53]

Oh yeah’ that’s back when they had I phones with more technology than the Apollo space program and still no one could figure out how to make a small chronograph that wouldn’t miss a shot. They also had eight years to evolve and haven’t made a move until Garmin kicked they’re ass.

Hi S Prarie- Hope ur doing well these days. Its all Good to me but I dont believe in coincidences and Im a curious devil. I just believe the introduction of the Garmin and the new LR have to be intwined somehow. Curioushoz would like to know what really happened but we will probably never find out. Bottom line though is I hope they all survive in the marketplace so we have more choices, more supply and mabie even a little better prices. Iv got an LR, a garmin, and i would prob get the new LR but not for 600–
At least i say that now— have a good one

 

[Dimner]

That doesn't give us much of a shot at BC But it will satisfy the bulk of the market.

For that reason, I'll be keeping the big orange for now...

 

[JFrank]

Hi S Prarie- Hope ur doing well these days. Its all Good to me but I dont believe in coincidences and Im a curious devil. I just believe the introduction of the Garmin and the new LR have to be intwined somehow. Curioushoz would like to know what really happened but we will probably never find out. Bottom line though is I hope they all survive in the marketplace so we have more choices, more supply and mabie even a little better prices. Iv got an LR, a garmin, and i would prob get the new LR but not for 600–
At least i say that now— have a good one

Hey Hoz ‘ I’m just a cynical old fart but your probably right that nothing is a coincidence , I’m still kicking up here after -30 temps a week or so past and let me tell those are no joke and very dangerous to be outside for much longer than to grab some fire wood or skin a bear.
Stay in touch my friend and stay warm.

Jim

 

[Dimner]

oh interesting... now there is a Caldwell VelociRadar for $499.

They say it will be at retailers in May. It does have kinda an odd looking screen. It's a pretty small screen in a big black rectangle that could have where they housed a much bigger screen.

 

[neckturner]

oh interesting... now there is a Caldwell VelociRadar for $499.

Things are heating up. Interested to know if it's made in China.

 

[DRK]

I did not see this at SHOT. I am in an ATF compliance seminar. Once done, I'll see if I can find it & see if they will say where it is made.

 

[SteveUrban]

What were you using before the Lab Radar? I remember wasting so much ammo and load development range sessions using a Chrony or the CED, Hell, I remember shooting those chicken $hit units on purpose!

I still really like my old Lab Radar, several years ago, after using a buddies LR I ordered one as soon as I got home. It was very reliable in any lighting conditions compared to those others. With that said, I am a Garmin owner and really like it.

Hope LR survives.

Oehler 33 & 35. Works great and outstanding customer service.

 

[ronemus]

What's up with the cable?

It could be a recoil trigger.

 

[Larry Koch]

Competition is a good thing, the winner is us, the consumer.

 

[JMayo]

When things settle down it'll be like Chevy vr Ford, Bartlien vr Brux vr kregier (just easier to spell)!
I've seen the Garmin on sebs and i have to say it's cool !
But in short range ibs ive been told you can't have them on the bench

 

[209jones]

The Caldwell one does make me wonder a bit, see it uses Chirp tech, same as fishfinders. I'd like to hear from folk like Garmin why they didn't use it, they've been selling it for years. does come with a recoil operated trigger you can attach to the gun if you think you need it. Supposedly can indicate BC as it can track out to 100yds. Have to wait for some reviews on that I suppose, supposed to be sending out 100 pcs for folks to test, probably late next month. Said they'd been working on it for 5yrs.

 

[WSnyder]

Labradar is probably not going to financially survive from this in the long run,

Their market had always been mainly commercial units not the little hobby units that we all used. Most likely why they never cared much about the hobby units. I doubt their commercial market has gone away. Maybe they’ve seen the light that there’s $$$ to be made from us?

 

[Dimner]

The Caldwell one does make me wonder a bit, see it uses Chirp tech, same as fishfinders. I'd like to hear from folk like Garmin why they didn't use it, they've been selling it for years. does come with a recoil operated trigger you can attach to the gun if you think you need it. Supposedly can indicate BC as it can track out to 100yds. Have to wait for some reviews on that I suppose, supposed to be sending out 100 pcs for folks to test, probably late next month. Said they'd been working on it for 5yrs.

I love the idea that the caldwell can do BC and downrange velocity, however, seeing some other videos of the cadlwell, it looks about 65% of the size of a lab radar. The caldwell just seems like a bulky formfactor that will not save me any baggage over what I'm already bringing to the range.

So for now, I guess I'm keeping LR original.

 

[Rocketvapor]

I'm gonna guess that the larger antenna, higher radar frequency, beam width, and Chirp electronics are going to be touchy pointing to get 100 yd returns from little bullets.

 

[Rsadams]

Ok , going to throw in my two cents on all this.... I have the lab radar and when I bought it a spent $20 on a nice printed sight to align it to the target... $20 bucks still seems like a lot but I have never not gotten it out of alignment with it so it's $20 bucks to not have that aggravation.... I also bought the battery packs from them...

I read the directions and watched the videos and even called them with a question or two before actually using it... I have had zero problems with it and the only thing close to a problem was when I tried to use it for rifle with it set on pistol , completely my fault... It's a ton better than my old sky screen crone and more believable in what it says , plus it's a lot harder to accidentally shoot...

My only complaint is that it's so big and because of f that I bought a really good tripod but it does scare me on really windy days which aren't great for rifle shooting anyway... I like the idea of the smaller Garmin and if the new lab radar to protect it from high wind... That being said I already have a box of the latest and greatest stuff I bought which didn't work better than my old stuff and try real hard now to not put anything else in it.. If you bought a Garmin and it's working for you great , why would you now buy this... Same reason I am not buying a Garmin...

 

[neckturner]

It could be a recoil trigger.

It's a cord to external power, according to others in this thread.