Nuclear Coyote Rifles

[rmr]

anyone here using a *Really* high powered, coyote rifle?

I'm thinking about range toys that are not for folks who want to save the pelts. Rather folks who want to shoot and skin a critter in one easy step.

30-378WB, 300dakota, 300RUM with 110/125Gn bullets....?

A friend of mine some years back was talking about building a 17 twist 50bmg with 450Gn frangible bullets, but I'm not sure I could find someone to make the bullets today. propellant might be an issue as well. H50BMG might be too slow...

thoughts? experiences?

 

[MClark]

A friend I hunt with sometimes uses a 300 Weatherby for coyotes. Where we hunt shots are typically quite close. You have to be careful they are not too close or you will get "stuff" all over you.

Mark

 

[wvuredneck09]

If your dead set on the project I'd neck down 300 rum brass to 6mm and blast away for 400 rounds, then swap barrels. lol It would be fun though. 338 lapua would be even better necked down but you'd need the right bolt face.

 

[XTR]

now we're getting into Ergensplittenloudenboomer range

 

[370bc]

This is a 7mm-300 Winchester Magnum that I used for a short period of time. It was a spectacular killer. A specialized rig that was carried many miles but seldom fired.

That barrel looks 100 foot long! Twist?
What velocities and bullets where you using and getting?
How big is that pretty Dog?
Great pics. Thanks.
My brother prefers his 300 win mag w/ 180 grains of fire-breathing Partitions as opposed to his perfectly fine rem 700 in 22-250 to dispatch 35 pound critters!

 

[fredo]

If ya wanna try to blow up a coyote like its a p-dog, that's cool. But, I reckon the novelty of actually using such a rifle on calling stands will wear off, rather quickly...

 

[rmr]

"If ya wanna try to blow up a coyote like its a p-dog, that's cool. But, I reckon the novelty of actually using such a rifle on calling stands will wear off, rather quickly..."

no question..

the funny part is that after some research, Lehigh defense makes a 750gn expanding bullet for the 50. this will stabilize in a 15twist barrel, and I can drive them to 3000fps. since I already have everything else (rifle, reloading capability, etc), I'm not out any extra cash, just a few boxes of bullets. Now....as to your comment, I have no doubt that lugging a 40lb 50BMG out coyote hunting is gonna get really old about 20yds from the truck, but its worth a shot. (once. maybe twice) :-D

I'm curious to see if they will actually expand on a song dog. I'll find out, one way or another.


http://www.lehighdefense.com/collec...chaos-high-velocity-bullet?variant=1073863504

 

[DHD]

13.5 pounds

28.5” Hart barrel

Rifling twist rate 1:9”

Sierra 168 grain MK Bullet

Hodgdon 4831 powder – 70 grains (average velocity 3,150 fps)

I didn’t weigh that one. But I’m 6’3”, so you can get a sense of proportion.

Ummm, where are the trees?

 

[DHD]

I was often surprised by stumbling onto good coyote hunting stands that I first thought would be a dud.

The coyote pictured above was taken from this location. These fence posts are the closest things to trees for a long way. My hunting partner and I were sitting up against them. Out in the distance is an abandoned gravel pit filled in with construction debris. This coyote had made his den there. He was living healthy and happy in this denuded landscape.

Oh, it's a beautiful area, but I'm just not used to seeing such flat barren land. I can't throw a limb without hitting a couple trees here......

 

[Gene66]

My longest shot at a coyote was 920 yards with a 50 BMG necked down to .375 . Barrel with muzzle brake is 44" . I use 250X Barnes bullets with 207.5 grains of Winchester 872. Vel is 3975. The gun weighs close to 75 pounds, thankfully I live in the country and only have to carry it 6 foot to the shooting bench. This is a single shot.
PS if I go to the 235 Barnes X bullet, I can get up to 4220 Vel.

 

[Gene66]

Yes that is correct. I have a shooting bench on the bottom level and a shooting bench on the top level. This weapon has to be shot with a bench.

 

[22DASHER]

Yes that is correct. I have a shooting bench on the bottom level and a shooting bench on the top level. This weapon has to be shot with a bench. View attachment 974441

Holy $hit

 

[Phil]

"If ya wanna try to blow up a coyote like its a p-dog, that's cool. But, I reckon the novelty of actually using such a rifle on calling stands will wear off, rather quickly..."

no question..

the funny part is that after some research, Lehigh defense makes a 750gn expanding bullet for the 50. this will stabilize in a 15twist barrel, and I can drive them to 3000fps. since I already have everything else (rifle, reloading capability, etc), I'm not out any extra cash, just a few boxes of bullets. Now....as to your comment, I have no doubt that lugging a 40lb 50BMG out coyote hunting is gonna get really old about 20yds from the truck, but its worth a shot. (once. maybe twice) :-D

I'm curious to see if they will actually expand on a song dog. I'll find out, one way or another.


http://www.lehighdefense.com/collec...chaos-high-velocity-bullet?variant=1073863504

Take pictures............

 

[22DASHER]

Take pictures............

Screw the pics..... Get it on video!

 

[Phil]

Screw the pics..... Get it on video!

I`d watch it...........

 

[AckleymanII]

After the pelt market went to pot, we just wanted them dead with no runners.

The Std. Remington 270 with a Sierra 90g Sierra HP using IMR 3031 shoots bug holes, and will blow the entire off side off a coyote, I have seen entire legs blown off, hips shot off, and heads only being held on by hair. Velocity with accuracy out of a pawn shop 700 is usually 3550 with the Sierra 90g HP and IMR 3031 when bedded, freefloated, and trigger adjusted. The Remington 270 is one heck of an accurate varmint rifle, and few if any shoots it. I shoot the 110g V max at 3350 with R#17 and Win 760, awesome groups at 300 yds. Few cartridges will put wings on a chuck like the 270 with this load!

ON a custom, we built the 257 Weatherby with zero freebore, 100g NOsler ballistic tips at 3850 out of a 26" Pac Nor three groove shot so accurate it only took 19 rounds of load development to get groups in the .275 area, no neck turning. Seems like hair floated down for minutes, and on closer shots, the animal would be seen lifting up in the scope with the help of a muzzle break.

Our team would have big gun hunts, everybody would bring along a whopper of a rifle, we had fun.

Another team had a guy on it named Eric that shot a 308 on a Remington 700 action, and Eric shot the 110g Sierra HP at warp speed(3550). Eric reported that coyotes were shot in half, but no one had the balls to duplicate his load as it seemed like he was testing Remington action for strength.

This week, I was talking to a guy that seemed to come up with the ultimate coyote slayer, the 30/378 Weatherby shooting the 125g at 4000, Texan.

I built a 7 STW, 26",that shoots the 120g Nosler lead tip solid base and 120g Tripple shock at 3850 into bug holes, I suppose that the 120g V max in this caliber would be a walk on the wild side.

Back to basics, the 25/06 with a close to max load of R#19, win primer, 100g Speer hp(3500-3600) will massacre coyotes, but this is a short range affair of 250 yds and less due to the size of the Speer HP.

Coyotes are the ultimate pest with a single pair taking out up to 22 fawns per season, as reported by our Fish And Game Dept that put out cameras outside of a single den.

 

[rmr]

LOL.. good stuff here.

I've worked in the past with the 110Vmax in 308. the hard part of this load is convincing enough H322 into the case. When wound up to nuclear pressure levels, this is *devastating* on chucks/PD's. Strong custom actions and Lapua brass advised. (brass balls helps as well) with a krieger 13.5 twist barrel and a 95 palma short throat chamber, accurate as all H*LL.

I actually quit using this gun/load on PD's because I couldn't see my hits. (even with a brake, or a suppressor) the impact signature was immense: sagebrush waving around, dust floating in the air (mushroom cloud shaped.....) on lots of occasions, I couldn't tell if I hit the PD or not. I'd walk downrange, (short range load....100-300y...due to the poor BC) and it would take me 5 minutes of searching to find evidence of a hit. bits and pieces all over.. a foot here, a leg there, sagebrush decorated like christmas trees...

I really like the 7mag/7STW idea. I have a very accurate 7mag, that is relatively lightweight at 12lbs. I'm going to order some 120G vmax from PV, and load them up with RL19/22.

now I have two good options, however the 7mag is a lot more "practical" ;-)

thx for the ideas/stories!

 

[Keith Glasscock]

308 Win - 110 Vmax - Benchmark...

Haven't shot a squirrel yet that wasn't in two different zipcodes when found.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

Shot a few deer with the 110 VMAX at 3500 from a 30-06 and the 85 ballistic tip at 3500ish from a 25-06. The chests were turned into soup and goop, but it wasn't enough to separate body parts even on smaller deer (100 lbs).

 

[snert]

The first woodchuck I ever saw actually shot by someone else was hit by a 90 grain bullet from a Winchester 270 (factory load in 1977) at 200 yards. I was watching with an 8x Lyman on my 222 in case my friend missed. The chuck was standing, facing away, on a hillside that had been mowed. Sun was from behind us. Buddy shot. Woodchuck was now flat on its face. It was then I noted a "shadow" on the ground starting at the head of the woodchuck and moving outward, about 8 feet and it grew wider as it went, like an upside down pyramid.

We went to pick it up.

When we got to it we discovered that the woodchuck was now a head and hind feet, and was about 2 feet wide in chest area but 1/8 inch thick between the shoulders and the back legs. There was NOTHING inside from throat to nuts. The only thing holding head to rear feet was a sheet of skin with an entry hole right between the shoulder blades. The shadow was a greasy spray of woodchuck on the grass.

At that point I determined I never wanted to be in the military...

But man, I never forgot what a great bullet that 90 grain 270 was.